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Post by Buzzin (^_^) on Feb 12, 2009 16:10:23 GMT 1
Just in on the news: Dutch rightwinged politician refused entry to the UK, he would pose a threat to British security  I know he might have some stong ideas, but refusing someone entry just because he doesn't like a particular religious group? This group is known to kill anyone oposing them....so he wouldn't be the threat... I hope they will let me in for our spring ride out, as on a lot of points I tend to agree with the man. (not all points) Sorry, just really couldn't believe my ears when I heard this.....sounds like the anti-terrorist laws being abused again.  |
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Post by Hubcap on Feb 12, 2009 17:48:47 GMT 1
Yes, the UK has gone mad. In many ways.
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Post by pongo on Feb 12, 2009 19:17:05 GMT 1
The British have become experts in this field. We are targetting the people prepared to vocally challenge the system, but turning a blind eye to those who threaten and execute violence.
We are so focussed on political correctness "let's not upset the minorities, but we can abuse the silent majority"
Don't get me started!
Buzzin' I'm sure you and your aNTy will be fine, just don't have a pile of political stickers on your top box when you get the ferry over. Nod and smile to the nice people at the border, don't feel you need to remind them that you're an EU citizen with the right to a free passage in the EU. Just act dumb, pretend you're from from somewhere outside of the EU and only coming over for some free benefits and you'll be alright.
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Post by Buzzin (^_^) on Feb 13, 2009 0:29:58 GMT 1
I just watched a bit of newsnight, and the level of ignorance on the person representing the home office was mind bogling... "Did you actually SEE fitna?" no, I don't need to see it to have an opinion.... Riiiight. The reverend had a good point: If this movie, or in deed mr. wilders' dislike, would have been directed at christianity the british politicians would have welcomed him with open arms Ow well, at least the man got what he wanted.....a discussion in the UK  (which is always good) *sigh* I wish I could take control of the world and set it all right....but I can't, so I'll stop arguing about it now Sorry for going all political, but I am always surprised when these things happen in a civilized western country  |
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Post by McF on Feb 13, 2009 9:01:22 GMT 1
I rarely see TV and haven't seen a newspaper today yet.
But I did listen to the news and thought, if nothing had been done to prevent his access, he would have gone to the House of Lords, addressed a few dozen peers, gone home and no-one would be any the wiser.
I would bet that there are thousands of people googling him and looking at material on You Tube etc.
Inadvertantly, our bungling government have furthered his cause.
As I type, Radio 4 article on govenrment officials excessive "jollies" makes me smile with the irony!
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Post by pongo on Feb 13, 2009 10:06:36 GMT 1
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Post by Hubcap on Feb 13, 2009 12:20:40 GMT 1
My dear god. This country really is dropping its British foundations in favour of the 'ethnic minority'. How come british kids aren't allowed to talk about god in class, but pakistani's are being allowed to wear their masks on their driving licence photo because its their religious belief?!
Wake up PC crowd!!!
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Post by Buzzin (^_^) on Feb 13, 2009 12:34:55 GMT 1
Shhhh hupcap, saying things like that means you will get refused entry to the country.... Ow wait, that only happens if you local goverment has already compared you to hitler (which was a bit crued, as the man or his wife is jewish) |
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Post by Hubcap on Feb 13, 2009 12:42:11 GMT 1
I'm already in the country so its a bit late now! Bloody stupid all this crap at the moment, it's like all the polititions have taken stoopid pills and are now unable to think for themselves!
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Post by Buzzin (^_^) on Feb 13, 2009 12:49:03 GMT 1
Isn't that a bit redundant? politicians and stupid pills?  |
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Post by Hubcap on Feb 13, 2009 12:57:19 GMT 1
Well they were stupid before, but they must've taken something to get to the state they're in right now!!
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Post by Jaz66 on Feb 13, 2009 19:36:17 GMT 1
Hubcap writes Edited to reflect the real truth and wisdom of your words... (Buzzin, Am i right in thinking that the Dutch have a particular problem with a growing muslim population, and have started to take action on it, hence the rise of politicians like Geert wilder?) Not sure if you would have seen this today, but makes some good points www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/columnists/john_gaunt/article2233396.ece |
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Post by rj2para (Bisto) on Feb 13, 2009 22:55:05 GMT 1
Nice find Jaz, interesting read. (hold my hands up as I guess a news paper snob, it's not one I would buy. but spot on.) and had a chuckle at the joke at the end. Funny how he was not a risk when he came over two weeks ago. I hope they are that consistent with all risky types!! Reminds me of the old lady going through customs in airplane 1. I have the Quran and the Bible on my shelf, I am interested in all faith. We need debate not knee jerk reactions. Roger |
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Post by Buzzin (^_^) on Feb 14, 2009 5:38:45 GMT 1
-- deleted for sanity reasons -- Sorry, wasn't exactly sober when I wrote that... De Graaf van Salland: you're right....people are people....let's get along. Just make sure both sides are trying.... |
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Post by De Graaf van Salland on Feb 14, 2009 9:16:50 GMT 1
Whether a person is 'good' or 'bad' (extremist ?) has nothing at all to do with their religion.
There are good and bad persons in every religion.
Have a look, for example, at the dutch right-wing extremely conservative & christian political party called GPV. They have certain beliefs which are totally crazy (woman shouldn't be allowed to vote / woman shouldn't be allowed to work outside the house etc.).
So I just wish that the whole world would stop to think in terms of "muslim" or "non-muslim".
We're all just people !
Franklin
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