exhaust query

[peewit]

hi to all, after my dad gave me his deauville ( yes i said gave as in free) i pulled the plastics off as i know its been stood in the garage for two years covered in road salt and i have a large hole in one of the manifolds. question is that i have a pair of stainless manifolds off my ntv650p and wondering if they will fit and work ok? hope so as im dying to get me and the mrs touring soon. thanks in advance

[sear]

The down pipes should be stainless steel if that's what you mean? As far is I'm aware Ntv downpipes should fit, but I'm surprised you found holes in them unless the deauville ones were made out of mild steel?

[peewit]

the ntv downpipes are stainless but the deauville has mild steel and im surprised at how bad they are, although they were under a hard winters salting and then stood for two years

[deedee]

I'd heard somewhere Deauville exhausts were double skinned...

Had a very quick surf and came across a post on SV650 forum: -
"the 650 had chrome mild steel exhaust, double skinned downpipes, and they do rot eventually."
(That's to be found down toward the bottom of the page.)

forums.sv650.org/archive/index.php/t-149337.html

And some other stuff across Deauville models which may be of interest: -
(This's to be found up toward the top of the page.)

There have been basically 3 versions, the first "mk.1" 650 from 98-02 had brembo brakes, small panniers, poor headlight and heavy engine internals. The "mk.2" at 2002 had slightly bigger panniers (lids now have hinges internal so the accessory large lid only fits the correct version), linked nissin brakes, better "clear" headlight, lighter engine internals, some emission changes, otherwise much the same (but most think preferable). The 700 (680, now 4-valve FI, a bit more power and quite a lot more torque) came in 06 (I think), ABS optional but most will have it, different styling, engine/transmission internals substantially different, bigger panniers with a linking "baguette hole", screens started with 2 position bolted adjustment, then went to multiposition pull adjustment. Many folk fit higher screens for touring, either Honda or aftermarket (MRA vario is quite popular).

Only a few things to watch for.
Paint finish went downhill a bit, engine paint after 2002 particularly poor, often get repainted (silver Hammerite works well done properly.
Fuel pumps can pack up, but there's a simple diode mod and replacement points are available from Wemoto which will fix most cases, otherwise fit a Facet.
Early Brembo brakes tended to have "warped disc" syndrome, which I'm not sure was actually the discs because the Nissin ones used the same discs and don't have the problems nearly as often.
Lower rear suspension unit bearings can fail eventually, the bolt can be a pig to get out.
There are a couple of hiccup issues with carbs sometimes, well documented and easy to sort out if you are practically minded at all, usually routing of carb breather hoses. Sometimes overrun pops/bangs can be due to PAIR valves failing, but not that common.
Reg/rec seems fairly good, only a few failures (unlike SV).
Do make sure you get spare keys, the HISS security system needs them. Programming is straightforward, you just need a spare key cut and a piece of wire and a resistor. The method is on the owners' website.
Steering head bearings seem to be set loose and dry in the factory, greased and adjusted they're fine but check the condition, replacement isn't uncommon but is straightforward.
Fuel economy ranges typically from the low 50's to high 60's depending.
Avon Storms seem a favourite tyre, I have Mez Z6 on mine which are excellent. The OE Michelin Macadams on the 650's were nasty nasty things, but they'll all have gone by now.

They are built for distance and do it comfortably, I've toured Europe every year on mine, very easy to live with. People who find the power lacking often end up with Pans or FJ13's.

Generally speaking they are very little problem, most owners are "mature" and just enjoy owning them. If you can see the reason for a Deauville, then try one.

[peewit]

cheers for the replies, i put the ntv downpipes on and they fit although slightly longer. the deauville downpipes are double skinned mild steel and the front pipe literally blew itself to bits. after getting the exhaust off i was amazed at the weight difference between the standard setup and the fuel system. cheers again

[norfolknchance]

Ive got revere pipes on my vile
Brembo brakes are defo a problem that ive had

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