Tips needed on cable lubrication

[pozo]

Hey all,

When I have my NTV running again (after fitting the new tappets) I want to lubricate my throttle cables, and when I'm doing that the clutch & choke as well, as I noticed the throttle is a bit sticky. I'll lubricate the grip as well using graphite.

For the cables Haynes recommends motor oil, and a bit further on describes how to lubricate them with a pressure adapter.

So which is the way to go? I have learned that I shouldn't use teflon from a can in combination with the adapter as that won't combine with motor oil, and that motor oil doesn't come in aerosol cans so I can't do exactly what Haynes describes. The only way I see people using motor oil is by doing something like this (Non dutch will understand the general idea from the pictures I think).

Any recommendations? I'm currently planning to do the 'hanging them up with motor oil on top' trick, but then again that does look like it's more effort, potentially more messy and more importantly perhaps less effective than forcing lubricant through.

[De Graaf van Salland]

I just spray some WD40 in at the ends of the cables while I operate whichever thing it is (use the straw supplied with the can of WD40).

You can also have a look here: www.stoeretassen.nl/My_NTV650/KM_teller_kabel/Speedo_cable.htm

GvS

[smartiedarkblue]

hi,

I have tried all sorts over the years with various bikes, while lubricating sometimes does the job, it really is only a temporary solution.

If cables are binding then its time for a new set. They arn't expensive when brought off fleabay. can get the set for about 20pounds. Thats Clutch, choke, 2 x throttle cables

much better result as well.

ed

[pozo]

Thanks for answers both of you. I'll try oiling them up and should they start to bind before next winter I'll replace them

GvS: on Motor-Forum.nl there are quite a few people advocating that WD40 probably isn't the way to go as it's only partially a lubricant, and that it should be used either as a temporary fix or (what it's made for) to prevent moisture from entering things such as key holes.

You seem to disagree? How long do your cables 'last' with WD40 lube?

[McF]

For larger diameter cables (Clutch) I use an hydraulic cable oiler.
Here is an example www.motorcyclesparesuk.com/product-p/101519.htm

For smaller diameter cables I have an adaptor which fits over the end of the cable and to which the straw from a can of WD40 or teflon spray can be inserted.
I think I bought this in a bicycle shop for my mountain bike.

You have to remove one end of the cable to do this work and it is useful to do. It flushes out the cr@p in the cable and does provide useful lubrication.

If you are having problems with sticking cables it's also worth taking a good look at the condition of your cables - make sure there aren't any kinks or external damage. Do also take a look at the cable run to ensure it isn't getting trapped or restricted, this is especially a problem on aNTy with throttle cables

[pozo]

Thanks! I think the Hydraulic type oiler is what I was looking for to force motor oil trough

The issue might be that they're restricted somewhat: I noticed it with the handlebars locked in the 'going right' position. With them slightly more straight or going left there's no problem at all. I'll be sure to check the routing. I did notice a squeak from the throttle grip so I'll be certain to put some graphite powder in there.

[Buzzin (^_^)]

Teflon based lubricant can be used on modern cables.....often the inner lining is teflon as well....so no harm there.
WD40...don't know, can't say I would use it, but can't see why you shouldn't.
(BTW, WD40 is the BEST cleaner for dull finish aluminium....used it for the exhausts on the V-strom...works great!)
Engine oil should work as well...

It's usually the silicone based lubricants that are not advised....

[pozo]

The cable oiler just got in from WeMoto, I'll give you an heads up when I've used it.

[rj2para (Bisto)]

Looks good.

[vtwinfan]

don't waste your time,, just replace with genuine Honda cables , they really ain't that expensive.

[pozo]

Ah but there seems to be little wrong with them: they work nice and smooth provided the handlebars aren't in the right-most position, so at this time I think it's more likely to be bad routing than anything else. I'll oil them for maintenance purposes