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« Thread Started on Jul 5, 2008, 1:14am »
Hi all
Not too sure if this could/should go in favourite bike films
(it does have some books in it.) but here goes anyway..
As an avid reader, i would really like a list from fellow bikers of their recommendations for good books to read.
(maybe not necessarily bike books, personally open to any books regarding; S/F, crime, history, Miltary, Biographies etc;
although as this is a bike site, Bike books would be preferable).
Probably this thread will be a slow burner, but once some one has read a book they think qualifies, they might like to post it in here and give a brief summary of the book or link it to the book site, and brief note of why they recommend it... .
My personal choice would be more 'get out and ride the world' by binthar dunvat then 'Measurement of cylinders during the 20th century' by Mike krometer.
But we are all interested in different aspects of motorbikes.
Whose to say what is right and wrong....
Chances are some one else will agree/disagree with that choice, and we may have a healthy debate, but at least it will make us aware of the book in question and give us the opportunity to make up our own minds on whether to save/spend X amount of pounds on it.......
So if you read it and think others MIGHT like it, please give us your opinion and recommend it here.
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« Reply #1 on Jul 5, 2008, 1:51am »
Hi all
Bit cheeky posting to my own post , but just trying to get ball rolling and ask a question at the same time....
Ted simons first book, 'Jupiters travels' excellent.
Guy rides the world on triumph with little or no back up.
engrossing and educational regarding people and place i have never been.
slow enough pace for him to actually comment on where he is, rather than seeing it as blur. (slight dig at LWD and LWR programmes)
second book 'dreaming of Jupiter' slow going. Cant seem to find the 'oomph' and thrill of his journey..
How ever my question is, has anyone read this..
www.amazon.com/review/product/094....g#RUYKMLO7687HW
10 Years on 2 Wheels by helge pedersen..?
got my interest in Border while browsing 'Adventure Motorcycling'
any one able to point out if it this is any good?
gets good write ups but is it for me?
(quite a lot of money £19 for a book, but i am interested.)
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« Reply #2 on Sept 21, 2008, 3:31am »
Hi
Kinda knew this would be a slow burner...
But here goes This months choice:
"The police riders handbook to better Motorcycling"
By the Police Foundation.
Not a thrilling read, but full of obvious but sensible advice.
My favourite reminder is 'Act your age'
being 30 something ++ I kinda understand that.....................
I know i sometimes act like a 20 year old on the bike, but at least i have the experience (I hope ) to evaluate the situation (IE: being a car driver I am very aware what their position might be regarding vision, and what they might expect other drivers to do etc;)
but for some one younger (AKA a pretty large group) it may not seem so obvious what car driver can see and how they might react, and it might (probably Will.. )
improve your riding ability plus help you evaluate the risks better.
PS: Insurance companies are gonna luv you even more after this book...
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Next months book review:
An inspirational book for bikers and those affected by adversity.
Challenged by and challenging life itself is a book by:
The king of Cool, Bike rider extaordinaire, BSB Rider, Major Blagger and Total TOP Bloke!
Barry Sheene: An Autobiography
Taster
( Coming around the bend at 180mph I suddenly saw XXXXXXXs bike laying in front of me, with No time to react I........)
(Seconds later: STEFF: We all headed out at the noise and saw a large cloud of smoke on the far side of the track. Oh my god, I just knew this was bad, I cried inside.........)
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« Reply #3 on Sept 21, 2008, 3:55am »
hi all
just to add we all are bike mad..........Right
Have YOU read bike mag / freebies / books / article that you made you wish another biker was in the room, just so YOU could talk to them about it..?
WE are here for you .....................
All we ask is that if you read something Motorcycle / bike orientated..and it holds your interest, please let someone on here know (it may interest us as well............ )
There is far too little bike literature out there for us to trust that we WILL find everything worth reading about in this life time !
If you find it and like it......Share it
All the other members would..right everybody..
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« Reply #4 on Sept 21, 2008, 12:08pm »
David Hough 'Proficient Motorcycling' and 'Street Strategies' and Nick Ienatsch 'Sport Riding Techniques' for motorcycling books. The first two for riding tactics and how not to get killed, and Ienatsch for information on riding technique.
And as for SF, I recommend excellent (although somewhat bleak and depressing) books by Peter Watts: Blindsight and the Rifters trilogy (Starfish, Maelstrom and Behemoth)
He has released them using the Creative Commons license and they can be downloaded from his website at www.rifters.com/real/shorts.htm
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« Reply #5 on Sept 22, 2008, 12:38am »
Hi leslie
Looked up your first choices, get the idea that 'Proficiency' is the one to buy out of the two, but Nick Ienatsch 'Sport Riding Techniques' seems the most interesting according to the reviews, just worried it may be too race track orientated...what did you think?
www.amazon.com/Proficient-Motorcy....g/dp/1889540536
www.amazon.com/Sport-Riding-Techniques-Develop-Confidence/dp/1893618072
Also had a peak at peter watts page.
Will try to sit and read it next week.
Cheers for the choices, been struggling for ages to get a book that i can really get into. Dont know if anyone else has had that problem
Sci fi can be a bit bleak sometimes, prefer it a bit more 'Realistic' and thoughful.
Kinda like assimov, (particularly his foundation trilogy) et al but really took to 'The Amtrak wars' by patrick tilley.
A bit cheesy but enjoyable none the less.
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« Reply #6 on Sept 22, 2008, 12:45pm »
Sept 22, 2008, 12:38am, jaz66 wrote:Looked up your first choices, get the idea that 'Proficiency' is the one to buy out of the two, but Nick Ienatsch 'Sport Riding Techniques' seems the most interesting according to the reviews, just worried it may be too race track orientated...what did you think?
'Sport Riding Techniques' is not really that track oriented, despite the name - it's more of a general book on technique of riding a motorcycle, with comments on how something is relevant on the racetrack and how on the street - for example, the chapter on cornering has photos of recommended cornering position for track (hanging off, knee down) and for the street (more in line with the bike, just moving the weight to the left), and so on.
I have the PDFs of both books available, if anyone wants them, PM me.
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« Reply #7 on Sept 22, 2008, 1:12pm »
Hi Leslie, that sounds interesting I will PM you directly. I have most of the BMF high street books that I bought pre my test but most of the other stuff I have is video based. A Street, A Track the Open Road I realise is old and cheezy in parts (though suzy is easy on the eye) does contain some good points.
I am reading the long way down currently, not as good as the long way round book but shed loads better than the TV series that travels so fast I lost track of where they wer most of the time (I am with you on the dig Jaz). Currently suffering by any means (same but slightly bigger dig) which given it lacks motorbikes is hard work in parts.
I also like cookery programs Jamie's italy tour was outstanding, if only he had a bike that would be perfection. Much slower and more about the country and people. Staying on the book thread there is a book of the series whicj I can ad details for if requested. I have coooked a number of dishes from this
I also read a new book on holiday this year called "Sniper One" about a sniper in Iraq which was a good read. My dad was a sniper in the second world war and even approved as he felt it was not full of the usual "gung-ho war stuff"
I am also looking for free audio books and podcasts for my ipod, used to kiil time on the push bike between getting to ride the Revere.
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« Reply #8 on Sept 23, 2008, 1:57am »
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Leslie cheers for that. Will pm you for books.
Have read loads in bike mags re cornering etc and this summer put a bit more effort into practicing some techniques, i feel its made a real difference. Starting to see why bikers dont go on about the thrill of long straights but enthuse about the joy of getting it right through the twisty bits...
On a side note about Sci-fi, not the usual type of book I would have chose, but one I have read several times over the years was O-Zone by Paul Theroux.
2 reviews only,and I did not like mosquitocoast, so no 2 hits it for me.
Slow building for sure but watching that geeky kid grow up made it irrisistable. Don't think it will be a book where you pick it up, read the back cover and just have to buy, but if you do and persevere it wil reward your patience. Imho
www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/0140099891/ref=cm_cr_error
Roger, it was all too quick, but to be fair to the boys i think they did want to take more time in each country (ewan especially).
Not given 'By any means' chance, see it as just another quirky travel show. ...........
Haven't seen jamies italy show but maybe the hairy bikers might also appeal to you.. ?
I also got 'Sniper One' as one of my holiday books, and will definitely take the time to read it now i have read your comments, but on hols I got stuck into 'afghanistan 2006,3 Para' instead.
I'm sure some of the more military minded will have a better knowledge, but I just got a feeling that the book gave a pretty accurate description of good men trying to make a difference, war plans pulled ragged by political neccessity and the same poor B*****ds defending themselves as best as possible while stretched to the limit.
On a similar note although old, I would recommend apocalypse now (the movie)
and Black hawk down ( the book) Slight american bias but I have read the Mcnab/SAS type books and enjoyed immensely, but Blackhawk gave me the feel of how unpredictable and chaotic battles can be and apocalypse explored the snapping point of reality when under battle conditions.
Not too sure it would count but add it for comment was Total war 2030 www.amazon.co.uk/Total-War-2006-S....22128994&sr=1-1
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« Reply #9 on Sept 24, 2008, 8:13am »
Some good book choices there, perhaps a few to suggest for Santa (along with some time to read them!).
Agree with comments about "the long way" - "round" is far better than "down".
Jaz - your comments on reality of battlespace touch a chord - the guys (and galz) are doing a great job overseas, often unappreciated by people over here who have running water (inc hot!), food, sleep and shelter when they want it.
Confusion on the battlefield? - this says it all "No Plan survives contact with the enemy" von Moltke, German Field Marshall
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« Reply #10 on Sept 24, 2008, 4:56pm »
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Mcf
Quote:Jaz - your comments on reality of battlespace touch a chord - the guys (and galz) are doing a great job overseas, often unappreciated by people over here who have running water (inc hot!), food, sleep and shelter when they want it
True.
Avatar. No offense meant, just curious.
Ps. Roger not a big fan of karma thingy, but I wonder what you did to get yours minused....
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« Reply #11 on Sept 24, 2008, 6:09pm »
Jaz,
I assume you ref to karma is due to the fact my bike seems to have spent most of the summer parked.
The good news is a have a chap comming round on saturday who I hope will be able to lay on hands!! and get the old girl running again.
Good to have a bike though but it will be good to top 15 miles an hour again through.
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« Reply #12 on Sept 24, 2008, 6:14pm »
Mcf,
Your avtar is not very pc, I will agree. But it does make me smile.
I tend to feel it could be considered acceptable. But would be happy to support any lady biker that does not agree.
I am tempted to make a spinning gif of my bike as I agree it is good to see a different image.
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« Reply #15 on Sept 25, 2008, 2:56am »
Hi
Just to say that leslie was as good as his word. Have now had a look 'Sport Riding Techniques'
Like the writing style, book has a competent and interesting feel to it.
Will definitely be giving this book some serious attention.
With the overview leslie has given me i feel pretty confident buying this book will be something I do, at some point.
(The feel of paper can't be match by any computer
screen Imho.. )
This type of book was exactly why I made this thread, the exchange of information regarding books/article whether Motorcycling orientated or other Genres has made the post totally worth while for me.
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Soapbox moment................
Although we are a motorcycling Forum, we are small compared to some.
I love to read about bikes (Ntv) or otherwise, and technical stuff I leave to the experts, (respect to you all, you know who you are.. ) but sometimes its the more mundane problems fellow bikers encounter or are thinking about that hooks me and make me want to post back.
Hopefully different types of posts will encourage others to post back on the same subject or give them the confidence to post on something completely different, without the fear no one listens.
Giving us ALL more posts and more choices in what we read and reply too...............
I like to think of this forums members as 'extended' friends.
people I can talk to about loads of subjects and get sensible comments, help and guidance...
and so far i have been spot on about you all.
Long may it continue............
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Thanks everyone for taking time to help every one who has joined our Forum by giving your opinions of books we may have overlooked or been unaware of.
Now who else else has got a book suggestion...?
Any newbies want to confirm how good a book is or nominate a book they think might capture someones interest...?
Cheers all
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« Reply #13 on Sept 24, 2008, 6:19pm »
Not having a clue how I got a Karma of +2, but I think I know how to influence someone else's - go to their profile and "Exalt" (on the left side near Karma)
I've just done it for Roger, so he is a zero now (sorry - that doesn't sound too good does it?)
I didn't think the Avatar would cause anyone a problem - after all she is wearing a Honda Tee Shirt! If any of the ladies commented, it would be straight off. I'll change it though when I have something nice to replace with.
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« Reply #14 on Sept 24, 2008, 7:12pm »
Mcf
Avatar not really a problem, (dont really agree with the 'Pc' movement anyway) Consideration and toleration now over ruled by PC fanatics everywhere, to the point where we accept bad behaviour or practices for fear of being branded non pc...
....How sad
On a side note gave roger some Karma ( ) No one should be a Zero...
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« Thread Started on Jul 5, 2008, 1:14am »
Hi all
Not too sure if this could/should go in favourite bike films
(it does have some books in it.) but here goes anyway..
As an avid reader, i would really like a list from fellow bikers of their recommendations for good books to read.
(maybe not necessarily bike books, personally open to any books regarding; S/F, crime, history, Miltary, Biographies etc;
although as this is a bike site, Bike books would be preferable).
Probably this thread will be a slow burner, but once some one has read a book they think qualifies, they might like to post it in here and give a brief summary of the book or link it to the book site, and brief note of why they recommend it... .
My personal choice would be more 'get out and ride the world' by binthar dunvat then 'Measurement of cylinders during the 20th century' by Mike krometer.
But we are all interested in different aspects of motorbikes.
Whose to say what is right and wrong....
Chances are some one else will agree/disagree with that choice, and we may have a healthy debate, but at least it will make us aware of the book in question and give us the opportunity to make up our own minds on whether to save/spend X amount of pounds on it.......
So if you read it and think others MIGHT like it, please give us your opinion and recommend it here.
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« Reply #1 on Jul 5, 2008, 1:51am »
Hi all
Bit cheeky posting to my own post , but just trying to get ball rolling and ask a question at the same time....
Ted simons first book, 'Jupiters travels' excellent.
Guy rides the world on triumph with little or no back up.
engrossing and educational regarding people and place i have never been.
slow enough pace for him to actually comment on where he is, rather than seeing it as blur. (slight dig at LWD and LWR programmes)
second book 'dreaming of Jupiter' slow going. Cant seem to find the 'oomph' and thrill of his journey..
How ever my question is, has anyone read this..
www.amazon.com/review/product/094....g#RUYKMLO7687HW
10 Years on 2 Wheels by helge pedersen..?
got my interest in Border while browsing 'Adventure Motorcycling'
any one able to point out if it this is any good?
gets good write ups but is it for me?
(quite a lot of money £19 for a book, but i am interested.)
Cheers
jaz
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« Reply #2 on Sept 21, 2008, 3:31am »
Hi
Kinda knew this would be a slow burner...
But here goes This months choice:
"The police riders handbook to better Motorcycling"
By the Police Foundation.
Not a thrilling read, but full of obvious but sensible advice.
My favourite reminder is 'Act your age'
being 30 something ++ I kinda understand that.....................
I know i sometimes act like a 20 year old on the bike, but at least i have the experience (I hope ) to evaluate the situation (IE: being a car driver I am very aware what their position might be regarding vision, and what they might expect other drivers to do etc;)
but for some one younger (AKA a pretty large group) it may not seem so obvious what car driver can see and how they might react, and it might (probably Will.. )
improve your riding ability plus help you evaluate the risks better.
PS: Insurance companies are gonna luv you even more after this book...
___________________________________________________________
Next months book review:
An inspirational book for bikers and those affected by adversity.
Challenged by and challenging life itself is a book by:
The king of Cool, Bike rider extaordinaire, BSB Rider, Major Blagger and Total TOP Bloke!
Barry Sheene: An Autobiography
Taster
( Coming around the bend at 180mph I suddenly saw XXXXXXXs bike laying in front of me, with No time to react I........)
(Seconds later: STEFF: We all headed out at the noise and saw a large cloud of smoke on the far side of the track. Oh my god, I just knew this was bad, I cried inside.........)
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« Reply #3 on Sept 21, 2008, 3:55am »
hi all
just to add we all are bike mad..........Right
Have YOU read bike mag / freebies / books / article that you made you wish another biker was in the room, just so YOU could talk to them about it..?
WE are here for you .....................
All we ask is that if you read something Motorcycle / bike orientated..and it holds your interest, please let someone on here know (it may interest us as well............ )
There is far too little bike literature out there for us to trust that we WILL find everything worth reading about in this life time !
If you find it and like it......Share it
All the other members would..right everybody..
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« Reply #4 on Sept 21, 2008, 12:08pm »
David Hough 'Proficient Motorcycling' and 'Street Strategies' and Nick Ienatsch 'Sport Riding Techniques' for motorcycling books. The first two for riding tactics and how not to get killed, and Ienatsch for information on riding technique.
And as for SF, I recommend excellent (although somewhat bleak and depressing) books by Peter Watts: Blindsight and the Rifters trilogy (Starfish, Maelstrom and Behemoth)
He has released them using the Creative Commons license and they can be downloaded from his website at www.rifters.com/real/shorts.htm
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« Reply #5 on Sept 22, 2008, 12:38am »
Hi leslie
Looked up your first choices, get the idea that 'Proficiency' is the one to buy out of the two, but Nick Ienatsch 'Sport Riding Techniques' seems the most interesting according to the reviews, just worried it may be too race track orientated...what did you think?
www.amazon.com/Proficient-Motorcy....g/dp/1889540536
www.amazon.com/Sport-Riding-Techniques-Develop-Confidence/dp/1893618072
Also had a peak at peter watts page.
Will try to sit and read it next week.
Cheers for the choices, been struggling for ages to get a book that i can really get into. Dont know if anyone else has had that problem
Sci fi can be a bit bleak sometimes, prefer it a bit more 'Realistic' and thoughful.
Kinda like assimov, (particularly his foundation trilogy) et al but really took to 'The Amtrak wars' by patrick tilley.
A bit cheesy but enjoyable none the less.
Cheers
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« Reply #6 on Sept 22, 2008, 12:45pm »
Sept 22, 2008, 12:38am, jaz66 wrote:Looked up your first choices, get the idea that 'Proficiency' is the one to buy out of the two, but Nick Ienatsch 'Sport Riding Techniques' seems the most interesting according to the reviews, just worried it may be too race track orientated...what did you think?
'Sport Riding Techniques' is not really that track oriented, despite the name - it's more of a general book on technique of riding a motorcycle, with comments on how something is relevant on the racetrack and how on the street - for example, the chapter on cornering has photos of recommended cornering position for track (hanging off, knee down) and for the street (more in line with the bike, just moving the weight to the left), and so on.
I have the PDFs of both books available, if anyone wants them, PM me.
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« Reply #7 on Sept 22, 2008, 1:12pm »
Hi Leslie, that sounds interesting I will PM you directly. I have most of the BMF high street books that I bought pre my test but most of the other stuff I have is video based. A Street, A Track the Open Road I realise is old and cheezy in parts (though suzy is easy on the eye) does contain some good points.
I am reading the long way down currently, not as good as the long way round book but shed loads better than the TV series that travels so fast I lost track of where they wer most of the time (I am with you on the dig Jaz). Currently suffering by any means (same but slightly bigger dig) which given it lacks motorbikes is hard work in parts.
I also like cookery programs Jamie's italy tour was outstanding, if only he had a bike that would be perfection. Much slower and more about the country and people. Staying on the book thread there is a book of the series whicj I can ad details for if requested. I have coooked a number of dishes from this
I also read a new book on holiday this year called "Sniper One" about a sniper in Iraq which was a good read. My dad was a sniper in the second world war and even approved as he felt it was not full of the usual "gung-ho war stuff"
I am also looking for free audio books and podcasts for my ipod, used to kiil time on the push bike between getting to ride the Revere.
ride safe.
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« Reply #8 on Sept 23, 2008, 1:57am »
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Leslie cheers for that. Will pm you for books.
Have read loads in bike mags re cornering etc and this summer put a bit more effort into practicing some techniques, i feel its made a real difference. Starting to see why bikers dont go on about the thrill of long straights but enthuse about the joy of getting it right through the twisty bits...
On a side note about Sci-fi, not the usual type of book I would have chose, but one I have read several times over the years was O-Zone by Paul Theroux.
2 reviews only,and I did not like mosquitocoast, so no 2 hits it for me.
Slow building for sure but watching that geeky kid grow up made it irrisistable. Don't think it will be a book where you pick it up, read the back cover and just have to buy, but if you do and persevere it wil reward your patience. Imho
www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/0140099891/ref=cm_cr_error
Roger, it was all too quick, but to be fair to the boys i think they did want to take more time in each country (ewan especially).
Not given 'By any means' chance, see it as just another quirky travel show. ...........
Haven't seen jamies italy show but maybe the hairy bikers might also appeal to you.. ?
I also got 'Sniper One' as one of my holiday books, and will definitely take the time to read it now i have read your comments, but on hols I got stuck into 'afghanistan 2006,3 Para' instead.
I'm sure some of the more military minded will have a better knowledge, but I just got a feeling that the book gave a pretty accurate description of good men trying to make a difference, war plans pulled ragged by political neccessity and the same poor B*****ds defending themselves as best as possible while stretched to the limit.
On a similar note although old, I would recommend apocalypse now (the movie)
and Black hawk down ( the book) Slight american bias but I have read the Mcnab/SAS type books and enjoyed immensely, but Blackhawk gave me the feel of how unpredictable and chaotic battles can be and apocalypse explored the snapping point of reality when under battle conditions.
Not too sure it would count but add it for comment was Total war 2030 www.amazon.co.uk/Total-War-2006-S....22128994&sr=1-1
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« Reply #9 on Sept 24, 2008, 8:13am »
Some good book choices there, perhaps a few to suggest for Santa (along with some time to read them!).
Agree with comments about "the long way" - "round" is far better than "down".
Jaz - your comments on reality of battlespace touch a chord - the guys (and galz) are doing a great job overseas, often unappreciated by people over here who have running water (inc hot!), food, sleep and shelter when they want it.
Confusion on the battlefield? - this says it all "No Plan survives contact with the enemy" von Moltke, German Field Marshall
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« Reply #10 on Sept 24, 2008, 4:56pm »
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Quote:Jaz - your comments on reality of battlespace touch a chord - the guys (and galz) are doing a great job overseas, often unappreciated by people over here who have running water (inc hot!), food, sleep and shelter when they want it
True.
Avatar. No offense meant, just curious.
Ps. Roger not a big fan of karma thingy, but I wonder what you did to get yours minused....
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« Reply #11 on Sept 24, 2008, 6:09pm »
Jaz,
I assume you ref to karma is due to the fact my bike seems to have spent most of the summer parked.
The good news is a have a chap comming round on saturday who I hope will be able to lay on hands!! and get the old girl running again.
Good to have a bike though but it will be good to top 15 miles an hour again through.
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« Reply #12 on Sept 24, 2008, 6:14pm »
Mcf,
Your avtar is not very pc, I will agree. But it does make me smile.
I tend to feel it could be considered acceptable. But would be happy to support any lady biker that does not agree.
I am tempted to make a spinning gif of my bike as I agree it is good to see a different image.
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« Reply #15 on Sept 25, 2008, 2:56am »
Hi
Just to say that leslie was as good as his word. Have now had a look 'Sport Riding Techniques'
Like the writing style, book has a competent and interesting feel to it.
Will definitely be giving this book some serious attention.
With the overview leslie has given me i feel pretty confident buying this book will be something I do, at some point.
(The feel of paper can't be match by any computer
screen Imho.. )
This type of book was exactly why I made this thread, the exchange of information regarding books/article whether Motorcycling orientated or other Genres has made the post totally worth while for me.
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Soapbox moment................
Although we are a motorcycling Forum, we are small compared to some.
I love to read about bikes (Ntv) or otherwise, and technical stuff I leave to the experts, (respect to you all, you know who you are.. ) but sometimes its the more mundane problems fellow bikers encounter or are thinking about that hooks me and make me want to post back.
Hopefully different types of posts will encourage others to post back on the same subject or give them the confidence to post on something completely different, without the fear no one listens.
Giving us ALL more posts and more choices in what we read and reply too...............
I like to think of this forums members as 'extended' friends.
people I can talk to about loads of subjects and get sensible comments, help and guidance...
and so far i have been spot on about you all.
Long may it continue............
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Thanks everyone for taking time to help every one who has joined our Forum by giving your opinions of books we may have overlooked or been unaware of.
Now who else else has got a book suggestion...?
Any newbies want to confirm how good a book is or nominate a book they think might capture someones interest...?
Cheers all
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« Reply #13 on Sept 24, 2008, 6:19pm »
Not having a clue how I got a Karma of +2, but I think I know how to influence someone else's - go to their profile and "Exalt" (on the left side near Karma)
I've just done it for Roger, so he is a zero now (sorry - that doesn't sound too good does it?)
I didn't think the Avatar would cause anyone a problem - after all she is wearing a Honda Tee Shirt! If any of the ladies commented, it would be straight off. I'll change it though when I have something nice to replace with.
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« Reply #14 on Sept 24, 2008, 7:12pm »
Mcf
Avatar not really a problem, (dont really agree with the 'Pc' movement anyway) Consideration and toleration now over ruled by PC fanatics everywhere, to the point where we accept bad behaviour or practices for fear of being branded non pc...
....How sad
On a side note gave roger some Karma ( ) No one should be a Zero...
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