buckiemick
Ahh! Just passed their bike test
The price of freedom is vigilance !
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Feb 20, 2010 17:17:42 GMT 1
Post by buckiemick on Feb 20, 2010 17:17:42 GMT 1
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Feb 21, 2010 8:49:34 GMT 1
Post by De Graaf van Salland on Feb 21, 2010 8:49:34 GMT 1
I agree: very painful But I do have 2 remarks: What's stupid about the biker's behavior ? I think he's just slowing down a bit, because he can see that the cars in front of him are also slowing down a bit. It's the car driver behind him that's to blame: he/she wasn't looking. The nonchalance of the male PC: I'm not quite sure this is nonchalance. As a trained first-aider I've seen a few accidents. And I've also noticed that the (dutch) police are not keen on giving first-aid at an accident (They will rather direct traffic or hear witnesses). But these people are trained professionals. They should (and will) not respond in a panic. The female PC is already running to wards the victim. The male PC can see that immediate help is on the way for this unfortunate biker. I believe the male PC could be on the radio, calling for help (you cannot see his right arm; is he talking into the radio ?). In this situation, the male PC's role would be to prevent more accidents. If the film was a bit longer, I believe that is exactly what he would do. GvS
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Feb 21, 2010 22:22:57 GMT 1
Post by McF on Feb 21, 2010 22:22:57 GMT 1
I tried to watch this carefully a few times I think the bike looks as though he is slowing down and pulling from the right lane into the left lane and possibly looking to pull into the the layby. I think the car only moves to the right to avoid the bike but ends up hitting him. It's very difficult to tell as there is little evidence of what they were doing prior to the impact. From my perspsective, I'm afraid the biker looks to blame.
As for the police officers. WPC running (or attempting to!) fair enough, but what is she going to do? A few seconds perhaps getting the first aid kit from the car would help (Bandages to plug wounds, and I'd be very surprised if they didn't carry a few small doses of Morphine. The man is almost certainly talking in a radio and that is the thing that will help the most, getting paramedics on the spot as quickly as possible.
One of the first things in dealing with a situation like this is preventing yourself or anyone else getting harmed, so the other problem the police have to deal with is the sudden roadblock that is developing.
I saw a terrible accident on a rural road many years ago (pre mobile phones), I never even stopped to help the jogger that was mown down by an idiot driving too quickly. I tore off into the nearest village and found a phone box which got an ambulance on the spot by the quickest means. The jogger was pretty badly injured and several of my mates criticised me for not stopping and giving a hand. I have had some training in first aid but I'm not a paramedic or trauma surgeon. I still believe it was the right thing to do. I did go back to the accident scene and did a little bit to help, but beyond trying to keep him warm and comfortable, there wasn't much I could do about compound fractures! I'm pleased to say that an ambulance arrived in pretty quick time and he survived.
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Feb 21, 2010 23:18:56 GMT 1
Post by Jaz66 on Feb 21, 2010 23:18:56 GMT 1
Must be honest i reposted it and got sidetracked before i could reply apologies buckie. .... Turns out someone had seen it and had a bit more info, there is apparently a crash on the opposite carriageway, hence the police. One of the possibilities mentioned was that matey was pulling over to offer assistance..? At first glance it looks like the car but you can see the bike does seem to have come from the other lane, cuts in pretty close and leaves the car little opportunity to avoid him/her. Sure that the right response is to assess the situation (as the male officer does) and he does seem to be talking on the radio, perhaps to alert the emergency services that an ambulance is required? On the one you saw McF..sure many could offer comfort and support and maybe a little first aid but your assessment sound right, it was nasty and required more immediate attention then a quick bandage and a cuppa getting professional help on the scene asap, does seem the right response..time in that situation would be precious. the scary part is how easy a happy little ride out turned into to such a catastrophy..goes to show the importance of that 'life saver'......
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Feb 25, 2010 13:27:04 GMT 1
Post by Buzzin (^_^) on Feb 25, 2010 13:27:04 GMT 1
This clip is actually quite old and has been around for a while. From what I remember from the entire story: The biker was slowing down because of the hold ups and the car behind was distracted by either an accident or a phone, I don't remember. AFAIK the biker was ok and was not to blame.
Unfortunately we had a very nasty accident in the Netherlands not that long ago with a bikecop being thrown over a car due to it paying attention to a pile up on the other side of the road... (the cop was trying to clear the first lane for the ambulance from the other accident...but didn't do it very wisely)
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