rune
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Post by rune on Dec 8, 2009 23:29:17 GMT 1
I just bought myself a Honda NTV 650 1992.......and since I am only 18 years old I am not allowed to ride bikes with more then 34hp I went to the local honda dealer and asked if they could get a kit to reduce the hp. (air inlet reduction) They could only find a kit for the 1994 ntv!! Doesn't such a kit exist!!? I live in Norway so the kit has to be TÜV approwed. Anyone got any experience with this kind of kit?? I really don't want to wait for another 2 seasons!!!!!!
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Post by Buzzin (^_^) on Dec 9, 2009 0:22:19 GMT 1
The NTV 650 didn't really change all that much over the years on tThe kit for the NTV 650 Revere (before '94) and the NTV 650 (94 onwards) are identical as far as I know.
For the TÜV it doesn't matter, as both are RC33 (the type number of the bikes)
The NTV 650 didn't really change all that much over the years on the mainland, just some minor option changes.
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norfolknchance
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Post by norfolknchance on Dec 14, 2009 21:21:38 GMT 1
NTV650P 1993-1994 has been fitted with a restrictor kit...........down to 33bhp (hubcaps)
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Post by McF on Dec 14, 2009 23:17:26 GMT 1
Anyone got any experience with this kind of kit?? Norfolk (already replied to you) and Hubcap (his "other half") are the resident experts. Usually these things are a simple set of restrictors that sit in the carburettor inlets to reduce the amount of air flow into the engine. Simple to install and simple to remove they reduce the power available and limit acceleration, but only slightly reduce top speed, so cruising at motorway speeds is quite acceptable. As GvS ;D Buzzin says, there is no significant difference between a 92-650 and a 94-650, so if the price is right, buy the kit. It may seem a lifetime away, but two years will quickly pass when you get on the road. I have to say I am in favour of this type of limitation as it should help teach you the finer arts of biking before you start having too much power on tap. Your aNTy will be an excellent choice for this purpose. What are the road and weather conditions in Norway like at this time of year?
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Post by yellowmelos on Dec 15, 2009 8:55:27 GMT 1
Cheers for the info people, i don't want to restrict it but i was told by the person who sold me the bike and the trike that one was restricted... i want to remove it if there is one on there. too much power not a problem to me.... after years of riding a cr500r 2 stroke off road bike, you really learn fast not to do stupid things with a powerful light bike. also for comparison... ntv is 55hp and a weight of 212kg cr5005 is 64HP and a weight of 211 Lbs ?? so some differneces there.. you also have to take in to account that the trike is a bit heavier than the bike... need all the power i can get !
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Post by Buzzin (^_^) on Dec 15, 2009 11:42:06 GMT 1
Well, just take off the air filter box and the restrictor should be obvious. There is some rubber connection between the air filter and the carbs, it should be in there. The 'german' ones should have 33bhp or something similar written on them. Dutch ones might differ...we don't limit the BHP, but the kW (25 kW maximum; 0,16 kW/kg max) so it might be even more restricted... I prefer the Dutch system, BHP doesn't say much, but a maximum per kg is sensible...(25 kW on a 90 kg bike still means a crotch rocket) Then again, I'm not for 17 y/o drivers... they can keep the mopeds (16 - 17 y/o here) if they want to practice....but give them a proper education first (currently anyone can drive them after passing a flimsy theory test) Removing the restriction could possibly be as easy as just cutting it out with a knife...but I have never touched the restrictors myself, so I can't be sure... But don't do that....post it on eBay and ask for a swap new biker has restrictor, you have normal one
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norfolknchance
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Post by norfolknchance on Dec 16, 2009 21:22:18 GMT 1
uk restrictor on the ntv is between the carb & manifold.....................not airbox & CARB
some kits are on the on the air side NTV is fuel side (oh bugger) easy job to remove though
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Post by yellowmelos on Dec 16, 2009 22:47:16 GMT 1
Oh Bugger indeed, does this mean i will have to remove the carbs Oh well... another job for me list !!! list seems to be getting longer not shorter... This is the list so far ..... 1 get lights fitted to the rear arches ( done front, need to do rear ) 2. get mot 3. get and Fit new clutch. 4. oil and filter, air filter change. 5. depending on how it runs.... bit of a tune up. 6. and now remove carbs to see if there is a restrictor fitted
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Post by Jaz66 on Dec 17, 2009 3:51:45 GMT 1
Ah yelowmelos, the joys of Bike ownership....................... ;D ;D
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Post by McF on Dec 17, 2009 7:53:13 GMT 1
uk restrictor on the ntv is between the carb & manifold.....................not airbox & CARB some kits are on the on the air side NTV is fuel side (oh bugger) easy job to remove though Interesting. My first aNTy had the restrictor between Air Filter and Carb. I wouldn't have noticed it except the rubber had been hacked by a stanley knife to open it out to full bore. It looked a mess and in one place, had sliced through and been patched with black insulating tape so they were replaced.
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Post by skyhook on Dec 17, 2009 9:18:05 GMT 1
Oh Bugger indeed, does this mean i will have to remove the carbs Oh well... another job for me list !!! list seems to be getting longer not shorter... This is the list so far ..... 1 get lights fitted to the rear arches ( done front, need to do rear ) 2. get mot 3. get and Fit new clutch. 4. oil and filter, air filter change. 5. depending on how it runs.... bit of a tune up. 6. and now remove carbs to see if there is a restrictor fitted But just think when it's all done, The long summer roads and the wind in your hair......... and flies in yer teeth..........lol
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rune
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Post by rune on Dec 17, 2009 18:18:29 GMT 1
Problem solved!! I found a kit where you restrict the air inlet, and it has all the TÜV++ McF: Here in Norway it's like 0 to -10c at this time of year Haven't seen a motorsycle on the road for 6 weeks i think.... Thank you all for your replies! My bike Worked for 2 years after school so I could afford to upgrade from 125cc ;D
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Post by Jaz66 on Dec 17, 2009 23:33:40 GMT 1
Problem solved!! I found a kit where you restrict the air inlet, and it has all the TÜV++ McF: Here in Norway it's like 0 to -10c at this time of year Haven't seen a motorsycle on the road for 6 weeks i think.... Thank you all for your replies! My bike Worked for 2 years after school so I could afford to upgrade from 125cc ;D Hi rune. Glad you sorted the problem.... Good on you for being that determined to get what you wanted.... And if the weather is that bad remember to make the most of every riding opportunity come the summer months.... ;D ;D
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Post by McF on Dec 17, 2009 23:54:33 GMT 1
That's great news Rune - well done. Presume you haven't fitted them? Useful to have feedback (and photos ;D) when you do the work.
Great picture - bike looks really nice. What is the sticker on your headlight?
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Post by McF on Dec 18, 2009 0:02:39 GMT 1
PS - the weather! I drove up to North Yorkshire this evening, starting off near Salisbury. I am in the car now and glad of it today. It started snowing soon after I set off and continued all the way up. Temperature started at +1C and soon dropped to -2C where it stayed. Once I was north of Sheffield the snow had settled pretty well to a depth of more than 50mm in many places.
In Europe, I've driven in far worse conditions and the traffic keeps flowing, the roads are kept pretty clear. In the UK, we get gridlock!
I saw one one bike on the road today - or by the side of it. A GSX and it looked as though the owner felt it safer to make a different way home - can't blame him
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