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Post by yellowmelos on Nov 30, 2009 14:30:34 GMT 1
Hi people, MOT Soon and have some dumb ass questions... 1. Number plate light... Is one required... cos both the 600 and 650 i have does not have one... is this correct  2. Brake lights.. does the brake like need to come on when using the rear brake As the trike i have does not have a switch and i cannot see a switch on the bike i have either. ( also seeing as most of the braking is done with the front anyway ) |
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Post by oddjob1 on Nov 30, 2009 14:48:10 GMT 1
don't need number plate light in uk ...brake light should come on when braking..switch is under right hand side hanger ..simple spring action switch
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Post by Buzzin (^_^) on Nov 30, 2009 15:05:23 GMT 1
The NTV has a 'transparent' underside to the normal back light, meant to illuminate the license plate. This is mandatory I believe (but I don't know the exact MOT points)
The back brake needs to trigger the brake light as well. there is a little pull switch attached to the rear brake with a spring (I believe), it should be easy to find as it's adjustable. I'm reasonably sure this will be an MOT fail if it doesn't work...
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Post by McF on Nov 30, 2009 16:26:24 GMT 1
Mostly answered above. As Buzzin says, your rear light illuminates the number plate There was a time (back in the day) when only the rear brake operated the brake light. As oddjob says, the rear brake light switch is behind the right side hanger; it pulls almost horizontal, so it's not where you would expect it to be. The switch is fairly universal, so if it has succumbed to the elements (highly likely) you should be able to get a replacement quite easily. I wonder if it is mandatory to have a brake light operated from the rear brake? It may be acceptable to just have a brake light that illuminates when a brake is operated (presumably that's why you haven't had a problem with the trike). The check list for Motorbike MOT is here www.dft.gov.uk/vosa/repository/Motorcycle%20MOT%20Inspection%20Checklist%20%28VT%2040M%29.pdf. It isn't very clear what exactly they will check but I'm sure your local tester would advise. A simple rule for MOTs, if it is fitted, it should work. Eg I do not think it is mandatory to have rear view mirrors, but if they are fitted, they have to be crack free. Likewise with indicators. I don't think they are mandatory to be fitted, but if they are present, they must work correctly, be of a minimum size, flash rate and dimensions either side of the bike conform. |
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Post by yellowmelos on Nov 30, 2009 18:07:03 GMT 1
Cheers people... Here is the problem..... rear brake lever is not the standard.. ( See Pic ) ... the micro switch may have been removed.... Front one works the light o.k.  With regards to the number plate... this has also been put in a different place.. and the the old number plate fixings have been cut off.. but i am going to make soem brakets up for the number plate so it can go back where it was  |
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Post by McF on Nov 30, 2009 19:08:56 GMT 1
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Post by yellowmelos on Nov 30, 2009 20:00:47 GMT 1
i will look to see if i have one in the pile of bits i got with the other bike... does anyone know if it's a simple toggle switch ? also with regards to the number plate light elumination... both the bike and the trike do not have a clear panel under the rear brake.... cheers for the info guys... there will be more question soon  |
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Post by McF on Nov 30, 2009 20:15:26 GMT 1
i will look to see if i have one in the pile of bits i got with the other bike... does anyone know if it's a simple toggle switch ? Even simpler. I would describe it as a barrel switch. The spring pulls a rod out from the barrel and makes a contact inside. A spring inside pulls the rod back when tension on the external spring is released also with regards to the number plate light elumination... both the bike and the trike do not have a clear panel under the rear brake.... That sounds very odd. The lens for the rear light should be red at the back, but with a clear pane underneath, just like this cgi.ebay.co.uk/NTV-600-650-REAR-LIGHT-ASS-LENS-COMP-NEW_W0QQitemZ120497272332QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_Motorcycle_Parts?hash=item1c0e32760c |
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Post by yellowmelos on Nov 30, 2009 21:30:27 GMT 1
Right people, the brake light on the bike is as it should be, the trike has some sort of cover over the clear bit ( don't know why but can be removed easily ) The brake pedal brake switch should be easy as well, there is a mechanism under the rear wheel arch, i can easily put a switch under here somewhere.... well, that those fixed then thanks again everyone for you prompt reply's |
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Post by McF on Nov 30, 2009 22:33:11 GMT 1
the brake light on the bike is as it should be, the trike has some sort of cover over the clear bit ( don't know why but can be removed easily ) How strange! At least you found it and can fix it. Probably blanked off because there was no registration plate there to illuminate The brake pedal brake switch should be easy as well, there is a mechanism under the rear wheel arch, i can easily put a switch under here somewhere.... well, that those fixed then Sounds good thanks again everyone for you prompt reply's You're welcome, it's what we're hear for. Your turn to help will come soon enough |
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Post by yellowmelos on Nov 30, 2009 23:25:04 GMT 1
Well... The rear brake mechanism does have a switch, right up in the mudguard.... but after removing the rear and side panels.. followed the wire .... found the end of them.... not connected...and the connectors fit the plug it's meant to go into tested the switch anyway... doesn't work there's a surprise !!! also found an alarm under the back as well.... also not connected apart from 1 constant live and 1 ignitions live.... no others. i am sure i will find more....  |
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