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Post by Jaz66 on Feb 25, 2009 15:32:30 GMT 1
Hi just a link to a website that gives you all the details about what a bike MUST do / have to pass the MOT. With this guide, some time and preparation failing the MOT should be a thing of the past................Hopefully.. MOT Guide by MOTUK UK
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Post by De Graaf van Salland on Mar 1, 2009 8:58:00 GMT 1
I think that we're very fortunate over here in the Netherlands that we do not have an MOT for motorbikes. If at all possible, I do all my bike maintenance myself. Only for things like changing tyres, I go to a workshop. Ride safely Franklin
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Post by McF on Mar 1, 2009 10:08:59 GMT 1
The MOT is not such a bad thing Sure it can be inconvenient, but there are a lot of advantages. I do most of my own repairs and maintenance, but have a lot of confidence that someone (hopefully!) more expert than I am has had a look at the bike and confirmed that it is roadworthy. For my own bike, this means it is safe for me to ride. For other people's bikes and car, it means less chance that something will go wrong with their vehicle and take me with them.
I understand that there is a growing number of people in the UK driving without valid test or insurance. I had to take dramatic action yesterday in the car with The General to avoid an idiot driver. I cursed him (looked like a ratty car of young chavs) afterwards and said "he was clearly in the wrong, I should have let him hit me - I would have got the front of the car resprayed (too many stone chips now)". He was driving too fast and didn't appear to have any brakes, suspension was heaving all over the place. Grateful it wasn't wet as his tyres were probably bald too! General said "it was as well I didn't - he probably isn't insured". Something similar happened to her friend recently and the other driver wasn't even licensed. He got little more than a slap on the wrist.
Unfortunately, not all road users are as dedicated as we are. If an annual test helps me manage an other year of accident free riding, I'm content to suffer it.
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Post by De Graaf van Salland on Mar 1, 2009 21:13:23 GMT 1
Hi McF,
Judging from what I read in some articles, there is no MOT in the Netherlands for motorbikes, because accidents involving motorcyclists are not caused by a lack of maintenance on the bikes. Other factors are far more important (Sorry, didn't see you there mate....).
As far as I am aware, the Netherlands will only introduce an MOT for motorbikes if the European Community forces us to do so.
But I do agree with you, that it's not a bad thing to have someone check your bike over. Especially if you're not very good in mechanics. I have a bachelors degree in mechanical engineering, so I'm quite confident that I can check my own bike over (and also do, from time to time).
As for the MOT: I think that "inconvenient" is the key-word here. I don't have a set date on which my bike must be roadworthy. If I'm not satisfied with it's status, then I can leave it in the garage, untill I can fix it.
That's the reason why I used the word "fortunate".
As for the people driving without an insurance: I think we have a fund over here, which pays out in case the person causing the accident is not insured or cannot be traced.
Ride safely
Franklin
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Post by Buzzin (^_^) on Mar 1, 2009 22:50:00 GMT 1
Like Franklin said: MOT doesn't do anything for safety here, and the people driving around uninsured aren't going to be busted by it Fortunately it's pretty much impossible to have a licenseplate on a bike here and not have it insured. Put bike in your name, and you have to insure it, if you don't you automatically get a ticket. (all this data is stored centrally) Also being stopped on an uninsured bike/car means it gets taken off you right away.... Mind you, there are always some people around that drive uninsured (e.g. people with a driving ban/revoked license) The fund is called 'waarbordfonds' and pays when the other driver was either not insured, or took off without leaving details/flees the scene. All in all I don't mind the MOT too much, but I see more use for it in cars (which we do have) then in bikes. Unfortunately politicians are trying to force us to have an MOT for bikes too (the garage owners lobbied quite hard for it) so called to improve safety (which is Bull) and to check on emmissions and noise levels (again...bull). The only real thing they will acomplish is bikers pay more, garages get richer, and nothing else changes. As long as bike safety is not improved, but it's only to line the pockets of garages I won't support an MOT for bikes And no-good-people driving without insurance and/or license should be banned from the roads permanently...and jailed if they drive anyway.
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dhholloway
Ahh! Just passed their bike test
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Post by dhholloway on Feb 10, 2012 23:19:20 GMT 1
I'm an mot tester and i wish more customers are like McF i would say over 70% of bikes i fail the customers fly off the handle and don't understand why the bike has failed and i have had to preform some tests on some very dangerous bikes. Although that guide can help you keep your bike on track for passing the mot the problem is that a fair few parts of the test are down to the discrection of the tester.
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undercover
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Post by undercover on May 4, 2014 13:30:40 GMT 1
i have a question every ntv owner should ask does the centrestand without the original exhaust qualify as mot test pass or fail.
i know there is a mod on the forum just intresting to hear the views from a mot tester
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numpty
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Post by numpty on May 4, 2014 19:08:08 GMT 1
i have a question every ntv owner should ask does the centrestand without the original exhaust qualify as mot test pass or fail. i know there is a mod on the forum just intresting to hear the views from a mot tester I`m not an MOT tester but, as far as I`m aware, a motorcycle doesn`t have to have a stand fitted at all, but any stand that is fitted should work properly and not cause a hazard whilst driving. An exhaust should be `e` marked to satisfy European regs, but any tester with a bit of common sense will pass almost any exhaust as long as it`s not cobbled together bits that are hanging off the bike or deafeningly loud or obviously marked `not for road use`. I`ve got a straight through system on my TL1000, and that`s been passed by two different MOT guys. Hope that helps.
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seastate
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Post by seastate on May 5, 2014 9:27:13 GMT 1
i have a question every ntv owner should ask does the centrestand without the original exhaust qualify as mot test pass or fail. i know there is a mod on the forum just intresting to hear the views from a mot tester It's never been a problem for me in over 15 MOT's in various places. I have a Motad which came with a little bracket to replace the stand stop on the exhaust which takes the original Honda stand stop rubber. As long as the spring and spring mounts are fine and the stand is not held up with an elastic band or some sellotape I can see no reason why it would be considered unsafe
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undercover
All Weather Rider, well hard
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Post by undercover on May 5, 2014 13:21:14 GMT 1
hi seastate thanks for the reply i have a motad exhaust on my bike and it doesnt have bracket that holds the centrestand away from the back wheel.
is your bracket between the downpipes and the motad silencer i am curious to this as when i bought the bike the previous owner gave me the centre stand in a bag. so i had to fit the centrestand and take the exhaust off ''that was very expensive and a pain'' as the exhaust studs snapped and rounded in the engine block.
anyway if anyone can shed some more light for everybody in the forum about brackets for motad exhaust as everyone seems to have one before they bin it for a fuel.
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undercover
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Post by undercover on May 22, 2014 15:19:27 GMT 1
hey i have a tip and a warning to any potential ntv650 buyers
my ntv650 failed its mot this week because the handlebars impedes the powerbronze colt fairing just to clarify that the handlebars touch the fairing at full lock.
and no i cant adjust the handlebars because moving them back would mean they impede the fuel tank.
these fairings are at a set position and cannot be adjusted but how i wonder why the bike passed mot's before with the fairing on. as i only got the bike last year this is its first mot with me bloody powerbronze
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