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Post by McF on Feb 13, 2010 21:22:38 GMT 1
I popped in our local Aldi yesterday. Curious about a scratch repair kit I splashed out less than £5 on a box containing: Repair Paste (like T-Cut I suppose) Finishing Polish Polishing cloths Foam Polishing Wedge 4 strips of 2500 grade wet and dry (about as rough as a piece of cardboard - beautifully fine ;D kratzer-ex.com/KRATZER-EX_Pflegetipps_D.pdf - in german but it gets the point across - apparently the Germans swear by this stuff I spent an hour or so with the right pannier from the mighty Pan, which got a couple of very nasty scratches. After trying the repair paste, I resorted to the wet and dry in order to get the worst smoothed down. After this I got the shine back with the repair paste and then finished off. Results looked pretty good and then I used some Turtlewax "Color Magic". The final result is excellent. Sadly the damage did go pretty deep, through to the primer in some places, but it looks a lot better and not so "in your face". I'll try any repair that involves spanners and proper tools, but cosmetic jobs are not usually that exciting for me. This was pretty simple and got some easy quick results - my kind of job ;D |
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Post by Jaz66 on Feb 13, 2010 22:01:36 GMT 1
A 6 piece Bone China Dinner service and Cut glass decanters WILL always mess up the best of panniers. Surprised yours have lasted so long the amount of entertaining you do... For those who don't know about McF and his Pan 'beta; that he is testing for Honda....................... here it is with the 'naafi' set up on the go.. Cheap white mugs to you and me.. but Oh, when he gets the generals in for tea THEN the Bone China comes out....   |
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Post by McF on Feb 14, 2010 9:00:32 GMT 1
Rumbled me again Jazz ;D A 6 piece Bone China Dinner service and Cut glass decanters WILL always mess up the best of panniers. Surprised yours have lasted so long the amount of entertaining you do... It's all about getting the right quality in the first place. Nothing but the best here |
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Post by Jaz66 on Feb 14, 2010 11:47:04 GMT 1
Ah touche..McF... ;D good reply, sit..  iirc your panniers are the shiny type (Painted finish) probably more easy to notice the scratches in the first place, but i hope more easy to fill, polish and repaint to a decent finish, i would of thought..? be interested in pics before and after if you got any And the Kit for that price does look pretty good. (always a surprise in store when shopping on aldi or lidl.. the stuff they sell can be very unexpected for a supermarket) Was considering repainting an old Givi box, to freshen it up and give me colour co-ordinated lid, had a good think about it and got most of the bits.. (had most stuff since repainted aunties tank from Pukey green...  ) But held off and then let it slide, but will probably have a go at it at some point. Think the etching for the paint to grip will be the obstacle, may have to get some special primer for that to work properly (Box has that 'grainey' type finish) But like i said pics of yours would be welcome.. ;D |
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Post by McF on Feb 14, 2010 14:54:55 GMT 1
be interested in pics before and after if you got any Of course - I was expecting it Sadly it's a lot more difficult than I thought. Gloss Black finish reflects too much of the background when you're trying to take close up, especially indoors as I was yesterday. This afternoon might be a bit easier as I can get outside. I was looking in RJs posts because a while ago he commented on it against a photo. It's not in my photobucket, so perhaps it is in his? Think the etching for the paint to grip will be the obstacle, may have to get some special primer for that to work properly (Box has that 'grainey' type finish) If you're keen to paint it and have a smooth finish you have three choices: 1. Sand it smooth 2. Use a High Build Primer/Undercoat (I use this stuff on my boats) 3. Sand reasonably smooth then use high build primer It could be an awful lot of effort for little gain. If a freshen up is all you're after, try some "Black Wax" polish or if that isn't good enough just overspray with black paint. Piccys too ;D |
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Post by De Graaf van Salland on Feb 14, 2010 19:46:33 GMT 1
Plastics are notoriously difficult to paint.  It's possible to paint some plastics (e.g. PVC) by using a suitable primer first. But ABS (that's the plastic, not the type of braking system) can't be painted. See if you can find the identification code for the type of plastic used. GvS |
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Post by McF on Feb 14, 2010 20:04:28 GMT 1
But ABS (that's the plastic, not the type of braking system) can't be painted. GvS - you're our resident expert here, but I'm sure I successfully painted some ABS. A quick google gave me some interesting sites, in particular this one www.pfonline.com/articles/clinics/0203cl_paint4.htmlWhich says it can be done - grateful for any thoughts |
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Post by Jaz66 on Feb 14, 2010 20:55:11 GMT 1
Mmhh..i painted the plastics on bike ..no problem.. BUT the grain on the top box would probably be a real issue. Flatting it all out would not be practical, so a decent rub down, self etching primer and a further rub down and then sposh some paint on it would not be the problem, BUT the constant flexing of the lid MIGHT crack the paint, making all the effort pointless.... So may not bother... ;D |
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Post by McF on Feb 14, 2010 23:19:29 GMT 1
I found the "before" photo in Jaz' Album  enlargement of the pannier  and here is after  I also noticed this little issue that Jaz must have had  An enthusiastic removals van driver by the looks of it - hopefully no damage to your bike |
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Post by Jaz66 on Feb 15, 2010 1:19:00 GMT 1
well i thought the before and after pics were very nice but am i right in thinking you can still see so much scratch afterwards....?
And on the parking VAN front did i NOT post that here already?
Does look a lot closer then it was ....BUT still too close NOT to mentioned to Mr Dickless driver.............. ;D
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Post by McF on Feb 15, 2010 9:04:40 GMT 1
am i right in thinking you can still see so much scratch afterwards....? Yep, you can still see the scratch, but it's a lot less noticeable. The damage was quite deep and as you can see "after" down to the primer in a couple of patches The big line across the top is a "scuff patch" of protective plastic. At the forward end it got a little torn. When I flattened off the damage with the 2500 wet and dry, it looked awful - very dull, I then used the No 1 repair paste and with minimal effort and in a small amount of time, the shine had been restored and no sign of the sanding. The No 2 polishing paste really gave it a good finish. |
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Post by De Graaf van Salland on Feb 15, 2010 21:42:40 GMT 1
But ABS (that's the plastic, not the type of braking system) can't be painted. GvS - you're our resident expert here, but I'm sure I successfully painted some ABS. A quick google gave me some interesting sites, in particular this one www.pfonline.com/articles/clinics/0203cl_paint4.htmlWhich says it can be done - grateful for any thoughts Just goes to show that I'm never to old to learn.....  But before you try to paint the topbox. Have you ever tried to clean it using 'cockpit spray' ? (It's the stuff used to clean your car's interior) Try to find silicone-free cockpit spray if you intend to paint the top-box later on. Because silicone & paint do no go very well together. GvS |
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