painting panels

[Jaz66]

*Work in progress...

Hi Guys!

Had dent in my fuel tank (Hence tank cover) see 'gallery, Jaz'
But eventually took it out with 'filler' and 'primer'
Rubbed it down, re-primed and painted it blue...
(Bye-Bye tank cover..Hello Petrol tank.. )

Don't be ashamed to try, if at first you don't succeed..
You WILL get better next time...
(what do you have to lose,..tank looks like '5hit' now, if you fill and apply paint properly, can it really look any worse.....?? )

Plastics are piss easy..simply spray and leave.
But tanks are more difficult.
(Bigger area to spray, more noticeable, more time and attention needed) But NOT impossible to do on a budget.

Paint cost £7-£8 per can (Does 2-3 sprays of all panels)
Primer + paint colour + varnish.
Wet-N-dry cost £3-£5 depending how particular you are.
Filler cost £7-£12 depending how much you need
(£5. pack done my 'Palm' size dent in my tank)

total cost Around £ 35 PLUS time involved.
(more effort in. Better finish out! )

Enjoy &
ride safe

jaz

[Jaz66]

Finally plucked up the courage to repaint bike
(In reality got sick of looking at the GREEN
paint colour!!)

So far happy with outcome.

Gone from green nightmare to Blue beauty
....sort of.

Just in case it helps anyone else. plastic panels can be painted.
halfords car paint is what I used.

How did I do it?
degrease if necessary then,
1) *Wet n dry 400 to sand down panel.
2) *Grey primer (spray) to fill in and find faults.
3) *Wet n dry 800 to sand down panel.
4) *Applied spray paint. ( I chose Citroen Blue something)
Apply coat 2/3 after 15 mins etc until satisfied with
depth and quality of colour.
Then when it all looks shiny and lovely.............
5) *Apply Wet n dry 1200 to sand down panel.

WTF
I KNOW, but it WILL make the dull mess shiny....
6) *Spray on clear lacquer
7) *apply 2nd coat after 15 mins, repeated
application until satisfied by lustre of shine.

N.B. Allow to dry BEFORE rubbing down any runs.
Allow to dry until at least touch dry, or 24 hours
if possible.
THEN................

Refit to bike.
stand back and admire
send of reg doc stating change of colour.
PLUS
Remember NEW colour when looking for bike
in large bike parks!

As I said, so far very happy, I also polished up horn
chrome outer and painted rusted horn center black
as well.
From a distance bike looks like new ( well newer!!)!
Horn totally revitalizes front of bike. Makes it Looks crisp
and fresh from the front
(Honestly did look sad and rusty before )

So a very productive day.
paint work NOT as high as Honda factory paint standard but IMHO better than the paint work on my 10 year old panels!

Cheers

[Jaz66]

Posted By Derbyshirebill

I can endorse Jaz's comments. I've been 'fettling' paint for a long time (once got a lovely finish on a Jag with Crown house paint!).

If you do spray items yourself, the trick is lots of light coats in a warm place- warm the paint as well. Don't panic if the finish looks grainy or has a few faults- as long as you have a pretty even thickness you will be ok. Wait until it is really dry (I'm talking days, not hours) and very gently rub down with 1200 grade wet and dry, rinsing often and being very careful on outside corners not to go through the new paint. Rinse, dry and check that it all looks the same matt colour. (lacquer at this stage if you want) If not, do the bits that show up again. It looks awful at this stage. Then use rubbing compound to flat it out (you can 'feel' when it's done). Then use colour restorer and finally polish.
I did this on my mates £8 grand VFR recently- he thinks I'm a magician. I'm not- the only trick is patience and a light hand. What a know-all!

[Jaz66]

Just found an old forum i had started

never got any further, just thought i would share..
ntvhonda.yuku.com/topic/365/t/Paint-it-Black.html

[youija]

HELLOO!! THIS IS MY 1st POST ON THE NEW FORUM!! YAY!
Ok.. let me take some medicine...

Though I would encouradge some ppl with dents (all of us right?) with few words and some photos!! Lets get straight to action shall we ? (sorry for lack of technical names)

It all started in a sunny day (shame on that)! Bought a can of black paint (very good one, only shame it dosent fill up all scratches very good) , filler and something to add to the filler so he can dry really fast! (like in 15m) Let side:


This is the easy part.. just mix the filler with the "dryer" doing a bump and wait to get really hard.
Right side:


Now.. while I was waiting for everything , I put my hands on the clocks. The right side (speed one) was missing the glass. The previous owner told me it missed right before he show me the bike. (Liar!) So I had to improve it.. a little of filler.. and a new glass..


Paited the inside to because I was missing a plastic thing that create the contact with the glass and the clock and the difference in lighting comparing with the rev one was hudge.. this way u cant see it so well and it looks the plastic is there to..


Some fairings were broken so I had a special glue that really resulted till today.. (this job was done 1/2 month ago)


And this one to:


Ok.. Fairings out its time to take the shiny off and give them some paint to..


Nice, nice..


Let them dry to... filler was ready to me to smooth it up! and this was the end result: (abit more in the tank that I didnt need it , but) This is the right side, see the difference?


Who is this answome guy??


Ok.. two more I promisse.. this is BEFORE paint job.. I know the light dosent help but I think u can see some differences..


And the final result: ( I assure you that it is the same bike )


End result was really positive. Babes will look at your bike (and you eventually), new good look and moral up ! This was a 2 day job really rested, no rush. (nap included) Fairings were painted 3 times! And still I thought in doing it more but I need the bike to go to work! (not the buss !! nooooooooo)

Lets get those NTV in shape!

[rj2para (Bisto)]

Well done both of you, a great start to the new thread.

I may go the NTV route and drop the transfers if I paint the panels on my Revere.

Do either of you know, would wet and dry be the best way to get rid of the transfers? or is there a better way?

Cheers
Roger

[blitzman5]

Roger try useing a hairdryer it will melt the glue under transfer

[Jaz66]

youija...welcome
And Awesome post...great pics

Loved the clock solution..... ;D

Bike does look sooo much better with a lick of paint.
And we all got genuine NTV's so we all got Dents....

For those willing to try....
Use filler (Not too much, just makes more you have to rub out!) plus rubbing down using a block (Rubber or wood) gives you a good start.
Just Keep doing until finally happy it is smooth and blemish free.
apply more filler IF required.
Rub down until satisfied
Cover in Primer (grey paint) rub down primer with wet N dry 800-1200 and respray and repeat until happy.
(note re wet n dry. as the name suggests you use water to make the rubbing down as smooth as possible. use bucket and lots of water, rinsing paper regularly )

apply paint, then wet n dry each coat, repeat until quality is what you want (allow paint to dry in between rub downs, until touch dry 10 Mins + OR 1 hour+ OR 1 day/2 days the longer the better ).

Rj transfers?
Blitzman knows the score ..Hairdryer softens glue, so should come of easier.
Degrease area once stickers are gone (Degreaser and rubdown until smooth)
Be cautious with hands, as they can get greasy when sweaty so try to not press on panels before painting.

If panels are quite ropey, a freshen up by paint could make a HUGE difference.
Why not try ONE side panel first..you might be surprised.

Always wonder why people worry about buying panels in the original colour, unless in con cours condition, If they are cheap/local enough, a slap of paint will make most panel match the others panels and tank...
And if a match can't be made (Paint does fade and age with time) simply repaint the entire rear end..Side panels and seat surround panel. 3 panels, min time 2 hour ..remove rub down, primer, rub down paint, rub down N paint, repeat until happy. let dry re fit to bike, being careful in fitting back to bike....

Obviously spend MORE time get better results, but to improve a rough looking panel, this is a quick and easy way to get results

Jaz

[youija]

Thanks Jaz!

The only thing I missed there was the primer to fill up those scratches. And your post (in the old forum) was the one that inspired me to do this job. Aparently I need to read it more before doing a job. Next summer she well get a refresh in paint to last more time!

Cya out there!

[Jaz66]

Hey youija

You know there's a meet up in wales this year, right?

www.ntvhonda.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=rideouts&action=display&thread=19

Why not Pin in on map and we'll all get an idea of where we all are for meet ups etc

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Jaz