Don't know how many of you guys take part in charity rides, I was to ride in a local 1000 biker called Eastern Lights Cavalcade with all funds raised going to the local A&E. However we learned this week that the ride is canceled as the Norfolk chief Constable decided that a license is needed for the ride to take place, I thought that this was an isolated incident but then today I had a refund from the London Unity Ride as they too have had to cancel for similar reasons, is this the end of large charity rides. Mick
This is the new generation of the kill joy risk averse mandarins. I've just completed a mid week sailing race and the topic in the bar afterwards was the new generation of mandarins trying to spoil/prevent the activities that everyone is enjoying. The debate kicked off over the tragic death and serious injury caused to a father and daughter on Keilder Water at the weekend. They were both racing on a boat which capsised. Daughter got caught in the rigging, father went to help and they both ended up in difficulties. The killjoys will probably try to ban all further sailing activities as "it's too dangerous". They don't seem to get the point that sometimes people want to do something because it does carry a risk (even just a very small one). Often in my job I have to consider risks and how to accept them. I'm encountering more and more obstacles to accepting risks and more red tape saying we should avoid risks at all costs. Before long we will have a culture of "stay in bed, wrap yourselves up in cotton wool" and perhaps nothing bad will ever happen to you. I will shed many tears when that day arrives as I doubt I will want to continue in a society that feels it's not acceptable to take a few risks now and then
as sad as it is when tragic events happen, it does seem to be the knee jerk reaction nowadays to ban/restrict or licence that event, so much so that it almost become impossible to do any more.
Surely we all remember the thrill of the first ride on the roller coaster, sometimes we need those risky moments to make life fun and exhilarating, something the Safety Derek's seem determined to destroy.
Post by Buzzin (^_^) on Jul 16, 2009 15:50:15 GMT 1
Risk is just that...a risk....not a given that something will go wrong. Besides....most people die at home...so staying there is bad for your health as well. Please let people decide for themselves what they are willing to risk. Why is skydiving still allowed, but would it be illegal to do a parade on bikes?
And besides that....what is to stop 1000 bikers from coming there anyway? There's no law saying they can't gather anywhere they bloody well want to....as long as they all come on their own account... (they are free to go anywhere they like right?) So the only thing the police is stopping is the actual charity fund raising...
Interesting points by Buzzin, and clearly set out.
I think you're right, if Chief Constables refuse to licence an organised rally (be it on motorbikes, pedal bikes, roller blades or just on foot), then people will organise their own events "underground" and just turn up in places unannounced.
I should imagine the police would not have any legal basis to move bikers on providing no obstruction to the highway was being caused, or laws broken.
As for charity fund raising, there must be dozens of ways to raise money by a charity. They don't have to have a specific licence to receive funds.
It must be remembered that for the past few years the police riders have given their time to both these events by using their off duty time. Seems new regulations came out this year which means this can no longer happen, the Eastern Lights could have gone ahead without police support but we would then have had to stop at red lights and give way at junctions all which the police guys used to take us straight through. The organizers felt that with 1000+bikes this would not be safe, mind you the road from Norwich to Lowestoft is going to be busy that Sunday . Mick.
.... I'm almost speechless, what a bunch of w****rs, really, if they make us stay in bed wrapped in cotton wool, we'll get fat and die, if we go out to excercise, we might get run over, have a heart attack, or god forbid we might trip over a kerb and spend 6 weeks in a cast!
All this H&S bullsh*t is getting way to outta hand, it's no wonder obesity is rising rapidly if nobody's allowed to do anything that carries any tiny minute risk what so bloody ever..
HI Guys and gals well on june the 20th saterday 6am start 185 bikes left stockton on tees to cover 500 miles in aid of the northeast airambulance and on sunday 21st 115 did a smaller run of 120mls at the moment our collection stands at £3000+ Ride to Work Day on Wednesday 15th July.
By now, many motorcyclists, and the motorcycle press are aware of how positive Cleveland Police are in supporting motorcyclists, and supporting Rider Development with the ultimate goal of reducing the amount of people killed or seriously injured in any type of collision. Of course they recognise that motorcyclists are more vulnerable which is why they work WITH Motorcyclists FOR Motorcyclists.
When Officers in the Force’s dedicated Bike Section saw the date of National Ride to Work Day, once again, they were keen to support it and make efforts to raise the profile of motorcyclists nationally.
In past years, in keeping with the spirit of National Ride to Work Day, Cleveland Police Deputy Chief Constable, Derek Bonnard has supported Motorcyclists by donning his helmet to do just that and ridden in to work.
DCC Bonnard said “Not only is motorcycling a convenient, environmentally - friendly and efficient mode of transport, when used correctly, and with the right protective equipment it can turn a tedious drive to work into a much more enjoyable experience”.
This year Cleveland Police Bike Section want to again support National Ride to work day 2009 which is set for Wednesday July 15th by providing an escort for all motorcyclists who want to take part. They are hoping for another large uptake. Anybody wishing to join in should meet up at 7am on Wednesday 15th July at Preston Hall and Museum, Yarm Road, Stockton on Tees, for a 7.30am departure.
The Bike officers will then provide a full VIP style escort and ride out, through Stockton, Thornaby and Middlesbrough, finishing at Punch Street, Cannon Park, Middlesbrough, where bikers can have a free Bikers Breakfast and a cuppa before making their way to work in their own time.
Sergeant Nick Walker who heads up Cleveland Police Motorcycle Section said “Cleveland Police are keen to support and host this event which was a first and still remains quite unique for National Ride to Work Day. In the early years, we thought about just going out on patrol and acknowledging bikers travelling to work, but we went from that to developing a full blown VIP style escort for bikers who want to take part in a ride out. Our Bike section are very positive in supporting motorcyclists, and we feel that by doing something like this it will have a much greater impact for National Ride to Work Day than people travelling individually”.
Any kind of motorcyclist is welcome to attend and take part in the ride out, from Moped Riders through to Superbike Riders and you don’t have to be going to work, you could be days off or retired, just come along and help Cleveland Police Bike Section promote Motorcycling and enjoy a free breakfast courtesy of Cleveland Police. this ride took place with about 60 bikes turning up at 7am good day out after so positive with our local motorbike section
just a show coming up involving our local motorbike section
RIDEWELL What is Ridewell Written by Steve Darby The original concept of Ridewell began with the Road Policing Unit of Cleveland Police. They decided to look at ways of reducing casualties within the two wheeled road user sector by a process of education.
As with most things it began with a small plan but quickly developed into what it has become today.
Steve Darby and Nick Walker, both keen motorcyclists themselves, of the Road Policing Unit began to formulate ideas and they soon realised that they would not be able to achieve what they wanted without some assistance from other parties, Stockton on Tees Borough Council came on board and the Ridewell idea began to take shape A number of other parties helped greatly in this early stage, some of whom are still with us today such as Just Harleys of Newcastle Upon Tyne. Attendances have continued to rise since Ridewell began and hopefully will continue to do so. A number of attractions were secured and competitions devised where a large number of prizes could be won, such as mountain bikes, motorcycle clothing and security devices. This year we welcome substantial support from Winn Solicitors and Simon Bailles for which we are very grateful. Since the inception of Ridewell the Motorcycle Section have continued to be innovative in their thinking and have developed the ‘Ride to work day’ which is set for Wednesday 15th July 2009 this year, so come along and join us for the day.
More details of this and other ideas can be obtained by ringing 01642 301574 or pop down to see us THE boundary500 group will be there so come say HELLO
Hi Jaz, My solo ride had me leading 14 bikes to Lowestoft, a real mix of machines including a Triumph Tiger Cub, beemers, HD and assorted Jap bikes. They had met at our place and Annie did bacon butties for all while I kept the tea/coffee flowing Such a good fun ride I even took it into my head at one busy roundabout to stop the traffic police rider style while the rest of the gang went through on mass.
About 1400 bikes turned out and arrived in Lowestoft with no trouble or bad behaviour whatsoever. So the point was made I think. Mick.