solid fuel stoves used to be (still might be) in military ration packs. they are good, but the limitation is that the fuel blocks arent that easy to get hold of, but meths you can get anywhere (plus if you get the white version, it makes a handy vodka substitute....... ;D )
I noted your writing; 'I can't see us doing a great deal of cooking, I suspect more boiling of water.' (Reply #14) But for what it's worth:-
Used to do a bit of hill walking, (Many years ago.) Weight was always on my mind. (As well as on my back.)
We replaced saucepans & frying pan with a smallish Wok. (A flat lid was sourced from 'somewhere' to boil up water.) Used as a bowl to clean dishes, mugs etc. It cleaned itself, lol!
Whilst I used to carry some dehydrated food packs in rucksack; Fresh food was generally sourced late afternoon while looking for a place to pitch tent. Hot meals consisted of fry-ups for breakfast & stews for tea. Not gastronomically inspiring, but it worked for us as walkers.
Problem with the solid fuel burner is that once lit, the fuel is hard to extinguish. And one setting, on. can't turn down to simmer. I found I usually wasted some of the fuel ask I'd finished cooking before it ran out, or had to use another and that cooked before it ran out, wasteful really. Put it this way, my ex-army friend has plenty of these available when we go camping on the bike, but always take his gas stove instead...
Smoke me a kipper. I'll be back for breakfast. (NTV600-k 1990)
Post by rj2para (Bisto) on Apr 7, 2012 15:55:44 GMT 1
MK3 draft of the kit list New Additions in Blue
T-Shirts (thin layers to control heat and pack small)
Pack as little as you can
Tooth Brush / Paste
Tools / Spares
Tyre puncture plugs
Spare tie down straps
Hand pump for tyres
Warm Hat - Good in bed if it gets cold at night
Camp Shoes- Lidl croc copies (good for the shower on for first thing damp grass)
First Aid Kit
Thermal - Emergency Blanket (foil wrap)
[/color] [/li][li]Sunprotection: a cap & suntan lotion (should be readily available) [/li][li]Bug Rag [/li][li]Disc Lock [/li][li]Waterproofs [/li][li]Spare Gloves [/li][li]Head Torch [/li][li]Dog Tags [/li][li]Spare Keys [/li][li]Copies of document, Insurance, Breakdown etc [/li][li]Hydration bag [/li][li]Maps [/li][li]Small pair of binoculars [/li][li]Mobile phone [/li][li]Spare batteries for electrical stuff. [/li][li]Camera [/li][li]Mini Tripod [/li][li]Leatherman or similar [/li][li]Side stand plate - In a thicker (wooden plank) & thinner version (aluminium plate). Handy for green field sites. First camp I had to drink a can of beer before I was happy my bike would not fall over. With a side stand plate or board you can still have a beer but knowing your bike will not fall over. (p.s remember to lean it awy from your tent just in case the wind catches it!) [/li][li]Note book & pen [/li][li]Short & thin steel cable & padlock for helmet. [/li][li]Roll of kitchen paper [/li][li]Roll of plastic bags (bin bags) [/li][li]small 3-leg stool [/li][li]small sowing set (needle, thread etc.) [/li][li]spare clutch & throttle cables [/li][li]spare clutch & brake handle [/li][/ul]
Long Johns (Relpaces the sleeping bag liner and can be used during the day if it gets veery cold)
Small bottle olive oil (Frying / eating)
Washing up liquid
Cup / Bowl
Knife / Fork / Spoon
Packet Dinners (currently looking at Supermarket dry warm up pasta with some corrizo to liven it up)
Packet of 4 bread rolls.
Water Bottle (Empty for camp use)
(Old bike Honda 1990 Revere 600) (New bike Honda 1997 VFR 750)
It burns on solid fuel & folding it together will put out the fire due to lack of oxygene. It packs extreme small, but I'm not convinced that it's very handy.
You will struggle to fold this up when it's lit - they get rather warm. The frame does not close tight enough to eliminate O2 so it will continue to burn; once lit the fuel tablet keeps going until it's all gone. They're handy but I would only use them when nothing else available.
I have a Trangier but much prefer my Peak Stove
It runs on virtually any liquid fuel but ideally unleaded petrol or coleman's own fuel. Petrol is certainly a convenient one to use!
I also have a gas stove which is lightweight and very reliable but you are dependent on a resupply of gas
I would STRONGLY recommend that you observe two important points if you look at these: Have a screw connection for the burner to gas bottle; DO NOT get one where you puncture the can to connect the burner Go for a separate bottle connected to the burner by a suitable hose. This will be more stable when you're boiling liquids
Don't forget something to light the burner with - I prefer a small gas lighter to matches but if you want to use matches, get windproof/waterproof ones
A pretty comprehensive list RJ, a few thoughts of my own:
Loo roll - carry your own and you'll never be caught out. Carry liquid soap or shower gel rather than a bar of soap A towel is useful but you need to think about getting it dry. Try microfibre or pertex A flannel is very useful if you only have access to a sink Baby wipes are a really useful freshen up, especially for the sweaty areas if you cannot get to a shower most of us can go a day or two without a shave but it's always worth thinking of a good razor and I prefer to use shaving oil rather than lug cans of foam etc about
I wouldn't bother with puncture plugs. how will you get the tyre off, back on again and then inflate it? A tin of goo in the tyre in advance could be helpful if you have a small puncture but you will be looking for a professional repair
Binoculars - only if there are guaranteed babes on the same site
food - if you ever want to liven something up, take a bottle of Tabasco Sauce
Tools etc - a mini can of WD40 and some Cable ties are useful
When parking your bike, I'd make sure it was not just leaning away from your tent, but sufficiently far enough from it (and anyone else's) that if it did fall over, it wasn't going to land on you (or anyone else)
I would also add some sunglasses and a lightweight rainproof jacket which should also provide some protection against the wind.
Lastly, but most important when planning to spend time in the great outdoors - don't forget to take your sense of humour!