Rear Shock Absorber

[rj2para (Bisto)]

As this is an item I will need for my bike at some point, and may be of interest to others in the future I thought I would move the content over from our old forum.

If you want to take this on feel free. Happy if somebody else wants to run with this.

Ok so lets get started time to try out a new idea

[rj2para (Bisto)]

Rear Shocker
« Thread Started on Nov 21, 2008, 5:59pm »
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Evening All,
I am looking for a rear shocker as mine has given up. I have looked on Ebay & only 2 for sale, 1 in a worse condition than mine, the other a Hagon with a second listing having not met the reserve price. I can buy a replacement for £ 288 but my beloved NTV is 15yrs old, I have owned her for the past 11 yrs, so the shocker price is about 1/3 of the full price of the bike !
Can anyone advise where I can get one cheaper, or has someone got a Good one in their shed for sale ?
Christmas is coming up, credit crunch etc, Open for advice.
I would like to take this oportunity to thank Pops, for providing me with a carb, which is going well 6 months since fitting.
Thanks All for taking the time to read this.
Regards,

Hartlaab. (Alan )
Re: Rear Shocker
« Reply #1 on Nov 22, 2008, 7:08am »
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I am not sure how you would go about getting it done but I have an 89 Revere which when I bought it my brother said the rear shock needed re gassing?

Can any body advise is this is in fact an option and if you have any contacts as it sounds like it could help us both?

I suspect my cornering issues are rider error so it's not on my list just yet, .

Cheers
Roger
AKA
rj2para
Re: Rear Shocker
« Reply #2 on Nov 22, 2008, 11:55am »
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My original Rear shocker was heading for an MOT fail - no damping as no oil left inside.
I got a price from a local specialist of circa £80 to overhaul it. That was via a shop in Yarm Cleveland (unable to recall name at present), it took a few calls to get their name.
I managed to buy a good one from eBay so have not yet had the old one serviced.
It's possible to do although the unit is sealed. The workshop drill a hole in the body and fit a valve. Strip the unit, fit new seals etc and check the spring out. Reassemble, refill with gas and oil and presto - your shocker as good as new.

Here are a couple of useful sites from a google search

This has a very interesting interactive function to demonstrate the varying levels of suspension and control that can be achieved and why it is important to control bounce for best performance. Skip the intro to get straight into the programme.
www.shockabsorber.co.uk/bounceometer/shock.html

It might be worth contacting these - suppliers of Showa parts
www.k-tech.uk.com/who_are_ktech.php

If you find some further info, please post back and share the knowledge

McF
Last Edit: Nov 22, 2008, 12:03pm by McF »
Re: Rear Shocker
« Reply #3 on Nov 22, 2008, 4:16pm »
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Hook - Line & Sinker.

You rat and there was me thinking it was serious

lol
Good laugh though.
Re: Rear Shocker
« Reply #4 on Nov 23, 2008, 3:16pm »
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If it helps,
If it is a Hagon shock that is knackered hagon sell kits or offer a refurb service, I read about it in a classic bike mag recently.

rusty
Re: Rear Shocker
« Reply #5 on Nov 23, 2008, 5:49pm »
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McF


Funny as F***........................

Just one question bothers me..

How did YOU find that site................


BTW Clicked on FF/G..
Must be a pervert but Nude one reminded me of the Disney film, CARS.
Sick or what.................

Jaz
Re: Rear Shocker
« Reply #6 on Nov 23, 2008, 6:47pm »
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It came up on Google with a search for "Shock Absorber".

Not even "Shock absorber naked bouncing boobs". I did have a good belly laugh before I could paste it on the forum.

Had an hour in the gym tonight and one of the girls came in. The running treadmills naturally face the mirrored wall and she only went on the machine next to me . She is a handsomly curved young lady and I know her well enough to comment - "you have clearly got a good sports bra my dear" (said in a panting voice, BUT that was because I was nearing the end of a 6 mile hill session (honestly ).

"Yes" and "D Cup" were the answers to my queries. She is going to check out the bounceometer site, but ruled out me bringing a camera to the gym to catch her next time

McF
Re: Rear Shocker
« Reply #7 on Nov 23, 2008, 7:05pm »
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McF

Quote:
It came up on Google with a search for "Shock Absorber".


Of Course it did, McF, Of Course it Did..............
..

Hopefully I got a Virus cos I'm sure your post, after all that build up should be reading.................


Quote:
handsomly curved young lady, Blah, Blah, Blah, Blah, Blah, Blah, Blah, Blah, Blah, Blah, "D Cup" were the answers to my queries. She is going to check out the bounceometer site, bringing a camera to the gym to catch her next time


Ps McF, you gotta to have access to tiny, mini cameras, Surely...

Ride safe.
Always carry a camera,
& Post OFTEN.............

Jaz
Re: Rear Shocker
« Reply #8 on Nov 24, 2008, 4:26pm »
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Try ABE on 02088989052 for Shock refurbing.

sickpup
Re: Rear Shocker
« Reply #9 on Nov 25, 2008, 5:13am »
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LM Spares do the Betor monoshock for NTV 650:

Honda NTV600/650 Revere Betor Mono-shock (45302)
A high quality replacement shock with 1years guarantee
& Free UK mainland Delivery.

Price: £193.88 (Including: VAT at 17.5%)

www.lm-spares.co.uk/acatalog/Honda_Betor_Mono_Shocks.html

But Busters do them cheaper at around £165.00 ....

www.bustersclassic.co.uk/application.asp?appname=482

BETOR MONOSHOCK HONDA NTV600/650 Revere 88-96 (Includes Adjustable Damping)£165.00

Jake
Re: Rear Shocker
« Reply #10 on Dec 17, 2008, 4:46pm »
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Busters no longer supply this item, and it takes them about a week to tell you this.

Crap service.

victor
Re: Rear Shocker
« Reply #11 on Dec 18, 2008, 9:23am »
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I've checked with a few firms and apparently Betor have
discontinued their shock for the NTV.....

Jake
Re: Rear Shocker
« Reply #12 on Dec 18, 2008, 6:41pm »
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Ordered a hagon today from LM £229
list price £288
Thanks for the tip off

victor
Re: Rear Shocker
« Reply #13 on Dec 20, 2008, 12:08am »
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Shocker arrived 19th
Great service.
I will fit it over the holiday period hopefully. (two CX's to work on as well)

victor

[rj2para (Bisto)]

rear shock
« Thread Started on Oct 20, 2007, 7:17am »
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Hello again,
the rear shock appears to be at deaths door.
What is the best replacement shocker, is it a Hagon or does someone have a better alternative.
thanks

norman

Re: rear shock
« Reply #1 on Oct 20, 2007, 8:06am »
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get one off e-bay cgi.ebay.co.uk/HONDA-NTV650-NTV-6....VQQcmdZViewItem £20

ilegalalien
Re: rear shock
« Reply #2 on Oct 20, 2007, 10:43am »
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You can have them reserviced too. I had an estimate for circa £80 to fit new seals, piston rod and refill the damper. I think a new aftermarket shock was going to hit me for 300 beer vouchers. I would not like to imagine the mortgage size required to buy a Honda genuine part.
I managed to get a good one from eBay for a lot less and I've kept the duff one. If my good one starts to go, I'll get the duff one sorted, then swap and I have minimum time off the road. I think turnaround time was 2 weeks to have the work done.

McF
Re: rear shock
« Reply #3 on Oct 20, 2007, 1:33pm »
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REPLIES REALLY HELPFUL, THANKS FOR TAKING THE TROUBLE GUYS.

NORMAN
Re: rear shock
« Reply #4 on Oct 20, 2007, 1:40pm »
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tHANKS ILEGALALIEN, LOOKED AT THE AUCTION, RIGHT SHOCK, MY BIKE IS A 93.
I LIVE IN PORTUGAL AND HE WILL NOT POST HERE.
GOOD THOUGHT THOUGH THANKS.

NORMAN
Re: rear shock
« Reply #5 on Oct 20, 2007, 4:41pm »
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If he will post to a UK address, I can give you mine. I'm home next weekend and would happily send onwards, assuming you cover the postage.

Here's the suggestion, get an idea of international shipping charges. I did find a broker for this service who were pretty good. Decide you maximum overall price, then place your bid up to your maximum overall price less UK shipping and international shipping charges.
If you're successful, pay the seller and provide a UK address. The shocker gets delivered there, you could paypal transfer the international charges and the shocker is sent to you.

Sellers Risk - nil
Your risks, seller does not send the shocker, intermediary does not send the shocker = you out of pocket. Insist on insurance (for which you would pay) or at least proof of posting.
Intermediary's risks, minimal, maximum exposure, the cost of posting onwards if your payment bounces. Minimised by waiting for your transfer to clear before sending. Potential Customs issues if the goods attract an export fee, but that's not too likely within the EU (I think and I am no expert)

I'd be happy to help if it was worth it for you. PM me if you want my details; I'll be able to check Sunday on two limited opportunities 0630 - 0700 and 1230 - 1400 both BST

McF
Re: rear shock
« Reply #6 on Oct 21, 2007, 6:33am »
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Look up Royalmail Parcelforce and the website will give you the cost of various services to almost anywhere in the world. Even if you dont have an account you can send it out via the local postoffice.
The shocks are generally SHOWA units and are rebuildable. Some bike shops get the seals made and keep them in stock. Mcf is about correct for price. It makes a good job of them if properly done. Much btter than replacement aftermarket one's.
honda
Re: rear shock
« Reply #7 on Oct 22, 2007, 7:49am »
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thanks again guys for taking so much trouble to help.
all best.

norman
Re: rear shock
« Reply #8 on Nov 3, 2007, 4:33pm »
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THE SEARCH FOR THE REAR SHOCK GOES ON. TRIED THE GUY ON E BAY BUT GOT NO REPLY AS TO THE CONDITION OF THE SHOCK. RECENTLY FOUND OUT ORIGINAL HONDA SHOCK IS NOT REBUILDABLE, IS THAT RIGHT?
HAVE TO BITE THE BULLET AND BUY A NEW HAGON WHICH IS REBUILDABLE 262 QUID FROM WEMOTO.
DOES ANYONE KNOW A BETTER SUPPLIER, IE LESS EXPENSIVE
THANKS

NORMAN
Re: rear shock
« Reply #9 on Nov 8, 2007, 10:27am »
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Hi Norman,

If you can't buy them off ebay, I've just spotted the Betor monoshocks for the NTV which seem fairly cheap. But I couldn’t say how good they are. They might be cheap and nasty…..

www.bike-revival.co.uk/appbetor.html

www.busters-accessories.co.uk/products.asp?id=482

Jake.
Re: rear shock
« Reply #10 on Nov 8, 2007, 11:02am »

P.S.

Buster sell them for £165.00..... see below.

BETOR MONOSHOCK HONDA NTV600/650 Revere 88-96 (Includes Adjustable Damping) £165.00

Jake
Re: rear shock
« Reply #11 on Nov 8, 2007, 4:59pm »
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Quote:
RECENTLY FOUND OUT ORIGINAL HONDA SHOCK IS NOT REBUILDABLE, IS THAT RIGHT?

It may vary between designs. I'm certain mine are, they're Showa. If it's not fitted to the bike take it to a dealer and ask for professional opinion, alternatively, try a photo pasted on here and hopefully one of us can help.

I noted Jake's response with £165 from Buster, which sounds a good price for a new one, if it's up to the job. My rebuild would have cost £80 or thereabouts, although I would get new parts, it's still a used shocker.

McF
Re: rear shock
« Reply #12 on Nov 11, 2007, 6:40am »
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THANKS JAKE FOR THE BETOR SHOCK INFO, LOOKS LIKE A REASONABLE QUALITY SHOCK SO WILL GO WITH IT.
THANKS AGAIN FOR TAKING THE TROUBLE

NORMAN
Re: rear shock
« Reply #13 on Nov 12, 2007, 2:47am »
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No problem...

Keep us posted on this one Norman, I'd like to know how the Betor shapes up....

My own shock will probably need replacing shortly and although the Hagon seems the obvious choice, if the Betor does the job then I'll get one myself eventually, because it's cheaper.

Cheers,

Jake.
Re: rear shock
« Reply #14 on Dec 7, 2007, 7:10am »
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think i read somewhere that a fireblade shock will fit, dunno what model though.

zxtrevr
Re: rear shock
« Reply #15 on Dec 10, 2007, 2:45am »
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Quote:
think i read somewhere that a fireblade shock will fit, dunno what model though.

I had heard that as well, will check with a bike breaker mate for more info.
cheers

Odie
Re: rear shock
« Reply #16 on Jan 31, 2008, 4:43pm »
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My brother said that the rear shock on mine could do with an overhaul so if a fireblade shock would fit the may be cheaper as parts for mine do seem to be expensive. I just paid £205 for front calipers, Honda wanted £400 for a new set.

Parts seem to be much cheaper for the newer bikes.

rj2para

[rj2para (Bisto)]

Found a new one.

www.lm-spares.co.uk/acatalog/Honda_Betor_Mono_Shocks.html

I think I may need to get mine refurbished.