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Post by De Graaf van Salland on Jan 9, 2009 10:12:05 GMT 1
On my last two rides in 2008, my bike stopped clearly because of lack of fuel. Although the tank was reasonably full, in both cases I switched to "reserve" and the bike started again (it took some time, because the carburettors were empty).
After the last time it stopped, I rode for about 2 miles on "reserve" and then turned the fuel tap back in "normal" position and rode for another ±25 miles.
Could it be that my fuel pump has an "ON / OFF" problem ? Or could it just be some dirt in the tank, which blockes the normal feed to the fuel pump ?
Any suggestions please
Franklin
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Post by Hubcap on Jan 9, 2009 11:04:12 GMT 1
If it worked fine once you'd gotten onto reserve, it sounds like it could just be a bit of dirt blocking the tap, might be an idea to check that out first, if it doesn't improve, check next item along, it's worth having a look at your fuel filter, too, I replaced mine a few weeks ago because it was a bit past it.
Things like that are trial and error, I hope its an inexpensive and not too difficult fix!
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Post by The General on Jan 9, 2009 14:55:37 GMT 1
I'd recommend following Hubcap's advice: I had a problem a long time ago with dirt blocking the filters (on another bike). With tank full there was enough pressure to get fuel through, as the tank emptied, pressure dropped and I got fuel starvtion, the cure (once I identified the problem!) was simple and very effective.
Order a new Fuel Filter, they're not expensive - Forum member Sickpup sells them on eBay item 330299019333 (I'm pretty sure that is him - and you should PM him via this forum to see if he is OK to post to NL) Drain and remove Petrol Tank Remove fuel tap clean gauze primary filter and ensure that there is nothing blocking the passageways check there is not loose material in the fuel tank replace fuel tap etc replace fuel filter refill petrol tank
If you have done this in a relatively short space of time, there will be enough petrol in your carbs to start and run the engine (especially if it was warmed up before you started work)
If not, you will need to turn the engine over for quite a time to allow the pump to get petrol right through the system and fill up the carb float chambers.
Fingers crossed this does the trick!
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Post by De Graaf van Salland on Jan 9, 2009 15:25:43 GMT 1
Thanks for the advice ! I will do this as soon as the outside temperature is high enough so work outside. Although my bike is parked in a (my ?) garage, the garage is so full of other people's stuff (wife / childrens...) that it's impossible to work in it. Besides, there's no electricity (light) or heating.
So it could be a few weeks before I try out your suggestions. In the meantime I'll try to find a new fuel filter.
Thanks again !
Franklin
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Post by Hubcap on Jan 9, 2009 15:30:55 GMT 1
they're not very expensive, as thegeneral says, Sickpup will sort you out, and his prices are reasonable.
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Post by Buzzin (^_^) on Jan 9, 2009 15:54:57 GMT 1
If ordering abroad through ebay seems a bit much, try the local motoport or any honda dealer, I believe the prices for a fuel filter aren't that high (but always ask first...motoport can be very expensive with other parts)
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Post by rj2para (Bisto) on Jan 22, 2009 21:35:37 GMT 1
Happy to post over my old one if it would help, I bought a new one from sickpup only a few quid
(not sure about exchange rates though given buzzin's comment?)
as I thought mine was stuffed but it may help as a test?
Good luck.
Roger
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Post by Buzzin (^_^) on Jan 22, 2009 22:33:27 GMT 1
Exchange rates won't be the problem, usually shipping cost can be alot when ordering abroad Plus, I am one of those people that still prefer picking up the parts at a local dealer anyway, when possible. (Unless ofcourse it's alot cheaper to get it online.....I AM still Dutch you know )
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Post by rj2para (Bisto) on Jan 22, 2009 22:46:26 GMT 1
Go on buy British you know you want to You will feel good. Promise ;D ATB Roger
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Post by McF on Jan 23, 2009 0:39:02 GMT 1
I bought two recently from Sickpup via his eBay shop. They arrived well packaged and very promptly (within a couple of days) - I was highly delighted and recommend his shop to you all.
Sadly, I get them sent home and I'm away "on business" for several weeks so they will have to wait until I get home and rely on The General's advice
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Post by De Graaf van Salland on Jan 23, 2009 21:24:41 GMT 1
I received the following information from another "Honda-mad" collegue: Apparently the same fuel-pump can be found on the Africa-twin. These pump are very often a problem. The collegue advised me to replace it with a universal Mikuni pump: Much cheaper and more reliable.
I still haven't found time to have a look at the pump. Hope to do this soon .......
Franklin
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Post by Jaz66 on Jan 23, 2009 23:59:34 GMT 1
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Post by De Graaf van Salland on Jan 25, 2009 21:41:20 GMT 1
I started my bike today and let it run for some 10 minutes in the garage (door wide open). Because of the salt on the roads I didn't want to take her out yet.
The reason for this post is that it ran perfectly ! No fuel problems at all !
This Honda-mad collegue of mine also said to check under the rubber of the fuel pump. If it was rusted underneath, then the pump would be dead.
But there was no rust underneath. If fact, the pump looked almost new.
So I'm going to wait a little while before I order new pumps/filters etc. Just see what happens, the first few rides this year.
Thanks for all the advice / suggestions.
Franklin
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Post by Hubcap on Feb 11, 2009 10:13:29 GMT 1
Mystery, could've been something dodgy in the fuel.. there's some garages in Liverpool that sell bad fuel, it smells like nail polish remover and costs about 10p more per litre than normal fuel, and it plays havoc with engines!! Norfolk put some in his old Kwak when he still had it, took him nearly 3 hours to get to Manchester.. (approx 35 miles)
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Post by pongo on Feb 11, 2009 16:03:06 GMT 1
The humour to be had there - dodgy fuel in Liverpool ;D But I shall resist. Never heard of this before, why would someone pay more for bad fuel? Has it got an additive (The Nail Polish remover (Acetone) smell) to give more octane, produce faster getaway cars? Norfolk put some in his old Kwak when he still had it, took him nearly 3 hours to get to Manchester.. (approx 35 miles) I must remember that excuse for my wife next time I'm late in because I stayed a little later at the pub/football/girlfriend's house.
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